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To: LindyBill who wrote (278462)	11/3/2008 10:53:27 PM
From: ahhaha	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 794149

My speculation is that gravity exists within the atom, It does. The reason why is that the components of the atom have mass, and all mass and energy have gravitic fields. part of the result of the spin going on. The spin going on inside the atom is of two forms, one is orbital angular momentum, and the other is a quantum quantity which we call intrinsic spin as in rotating ball of charge with mass and no surface, because in atomic spectrography there's phenomena that appear as though it had properties of spin, See Zeeman Effect, or Stern Gerlach. The former spin occurs classically as described by Bohr, and is an artifact of applying Schrodinger's equation to describe the dynamics of the electron nucleus coupling. The latter spin is a much more complicated notion and can't be coupled with gravity, say in the sense of gravitomagnetism. However, the Lense-Thirring Effect, a form of gravitomagnetism has had a gravitic connection that remains provocative through frame dragging. The spinning nucleus may distort electron orbitals. It's unclear whether Lense-Thirring operates on electron orbitals because one can't really say the electron is in orbit, and similarly that the nucleus turns on its axis producing a drag on the electrons. Those classical notions don't have rigorous meaning in QM. Both kinds of spin entail mass, or entailed through Planck's constant, so maybe your intuition is onto something. It's very unclear though since there's at least 40 orders of magnitude separating a possible gravitic effect of the electron associated with its intrinsic spin, and it's very difficult to conceptualize how they're connected, if only because we have a difficult time conceptualizing gravity, and especially not on and below the atomic level. I don't have the math or the ablity to debate it. It's a problem but only as far as getting the right concept behind these words. In QFT the words seem to make more sense than the math!