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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (145503)	11/4/2008 5:17:32 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

"(indirectly it has some importance to abortion, obviously if the father abandons the pregnant woman and the unborn child than abortion is more likely, but that's not an issue of abortion law, or ideas about what abortion law should say, so its still outside the framework of the conversation)." At some point the issue should morph into parental responsibility. After all most abortion decisions are decisions to have or not to have parental responsibility for a child. In most cases it has little to do with an unwanted pregnancy, and everything to do with becoming a parent. A responsibility men can abandon without abortion, more easily than women can.

To: TimF who wrote (145503)	11/4/2008 5:36:20 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

" Since the man doesn't get to decide according to current law, and since neither side of the abortion debate is arguing "the man should decide", or "the father should get an equal say" or anything like that," Most states have restrictive conditions attached to the legality of abortions in their states.....I'm damn well sure those conditions weren't attached by women...... Don't know whether you've noticed, but most Pro-life activists are men. There's is even an SI member who uses the name as his thread moniker.....and he is rabid..... The Pope decides for Catholics.... You say, "it's not (the father) highly relevent..." And that's the very attitude I'm talking about.