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To: neolib who wrote (93988)11/5/2008 11:21:41 AM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541582
 
Yes, I just checked the official CA site, and saw the same thing. I guess the CNN story just had the numbers backwards.

I gather from some other sources that the numbers flipped when more votes were counted.

I'm beginning to think that gays in the USA are going to have to been content with civil union type laws. The word Marriage has to much religion in it for too many voters. Of course if it took 140 years from slavery until we elected the first black Pres, how long before we elect the first gay one?

Given the in closet character of gay life up until the last several years, we may have well elected a gay president in the past. Who knows.

My vote for the first gay president, as of this morning, goes to Rachel Maddow.

What happens to existing CA gay marriages? Laws usually can't be retroactive.

I agree. But my impression is that this proposition changed the constitution. So it has more status than "laws."



To: neolib who wrote (93988)11/5/2008 11:45:21 AM
From: Wharf Rat  Respond to of 541582
 
"how long before we elect the first gay one?"
8 years ago?? I dunno; ask Gannon-Guckert.

Went to a lesbian wedding Sat. They said they wanted to beat the deadline, and that they would be legal.
Interesting court followup to this...either they retroactively void the existing marriages (suit), or they allow them to stand (suit...they did it, why can't we?).