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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (54631)	11/5/2008 12:06:02 PM
From: TideGlider	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224649

So you disagree with Obama forcing people to give their money to the government so they can give it to the less advantaged or to those who just don't work as hard. That is a moral issue.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (54631)	11/5/2008 12:23:05 PM
From: jrhana	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224649

Yes the fundamentalist Christians-They are the only ones that will continue to fight. But many of their issues simply aren't my issues. But I have tried and learn to live with them. They are not the ones taking away my liberty. Personally I think that the Republicans with their fundamentalists totally blew it by expending a huge amount of energy and political capital over the Schiavo incident- fighting to keep a completely brain dead vegetable breathing. We needed that energy and that capital used in other areas IMO. It's been down hill ever since they all went psychotic over that one.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (54631)	11/5/2008 2:26:03 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224649

Obama is about to force his concept of fervent "fairness" on all Americans. That's a different kind of religion - but it is felt and promoted at least as zealously by social engineers as any other traditional religion. Would you prefer people who fervently protect human life[Conservatives] or those who trivialize individual freedom and life for the sake of the state[O's Democrats]?

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (54631)	11/5/2008 6:55:39 PM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224649

=== ".....should republicans continue to be dominated by the philosophies of Fundamentalist Christians." === I am a moderate Republican who believes in choice, stem cell research, animal rights, gay rights, separation of church and state, etc. The Republican Party let me down. While I support our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan, I now feel that going into Iraq was wrong. It disturbed the balance of power in the Middle East and has allowed Iran to become much more powerful, and much more of a threat to the free world. The US is now bogged down in Iraq, without any control over the government of Iraq. That means that, any time we leave, the government of Iraq can fall into the hands of dangerous Islamist radicals. There is no good way to get out of our military babysitting Iraq and protecting Iraq from crazed Islamists. UGH! The Republican Party refused to compromise on issues like stem-cell research. Most people think that stem cell research will lead to cures for disabling and crippling diseases. I know that good people are pro-life and oppose abortion, but by not being able to compromise, at all, NOT ONE INCH, on the abortion/stem cell/birth control issues, the Republican Party has left the door wide open to a radical, socialist government, dominated by the Democrat Party. Get ready for a bunch of new pro-Choice laws. There will probably be abortion mills on every corner. I wouldn't be surprised to see abortion clinics in Junior and Senior High Schools. Pro-lifers..... are you happy now!? The Republican Party will never become a strong political presence unless they become more inclusive of their Moderate base. Bush, and company, and the Democrats, allowed the sub-prime mess to happen, allowed our schools to further deteriorate, allowed our criminal justice system to continue to get worse, allowed worker benefits to rot, and allowed executives to bleed companies out of hundreds of millions of dollars, while, at the same time, cutting worker health care and retirement benefits. It's a real mess, isn't it? And..... it angers me. Our big beautiful nation of freedom and democracy is being allowed to deteriorate year after year. It ANGERS ME!!! Now that the Democrats are firmly in control, can we really expect them to get us out of messes, both domestic and foreign, for which they were also responsible?! Obama is a brilliant man. He is much smarter than either Bush or McCain. The question, in my mind, is he really as radical and socialist as he seems, or did he use his associations and socialist promises to achieve his political goals. I think that Obama will moderate, and try to be more inclusive. If he does, then we are probably looking at eight years of a Democrat lock on government, because I don't envision the Republican Party being inclusive of anyone but religious fundamentalists.