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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jrhana who wrote (54637)	11/5/2008 1:06:59 PM
From: jrhana	Respond to of 224729

Well it is time to throw in the towel. I'm going to take a long vacation from politics. I hope politics will do the same from me <g>. I think it was Will rogers who said: You can ignore politics but politics isn't always going to ignore you. It wasn't that the opposition was good it was that we got beat by an overwhelming force. I see no purpose in throwing myself under the wheels on an oncoming tank. Our country is going to combine features of France with features from Venezuela. Welcome to our future. You can't beat the system. You just need to try and game it the best you can. If another Ronald Reagan appears, I'll sign up. But I doubt that will ever happen again. They won't let it. They'll know what to be looking for and they'll squash him early in the game-Joe the Plumber hype stuff only nastier. Hats off to everyone that's going to fight on-but I think it's hopeless and self defeating. To the victor go the spoils The only really smart attitude is to suck up to them Message 25144459 Message 25145325

To: jrhana who wrote (54637)	11/5/2008 1:16:59 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	3 Recommendations Respond to of 224729

More success:Pro-Marriage Ballot Measures Succeed in California Amanda Carpenter Wednesday, November 05, 2008 The Republican presidential candidate may not have won on Election Day, but a slew of state-level pro-marriage initiatives did. Among them was California’s hotly contested Proposition 8, a measure to ban gay marriage by constitutional amendment in a state where homosexuals had been permitted to marry through May 2008 decision by the state’s Supreme Court. A new passage will now be added to California’s constitution that states “only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.” This is a crippling movement for the gay rights movement, which had argued California would lead the nation’s acceptance for gay marriage. Similar measures passed in Arizona and Florida. Both states successfully added amendments to their state constitutions to define marriage as only between a man and a woman. Voters in Arkansas passed a measure, “The Arkansas Adoption and Foster Care Act” to prohibit unmarried couples from adopting. This would effectively bar gay couples from adopting a child since Arkansas does not permit gays to marry.