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To: Lane3 who wrote (94099)	11/5/2008 3:58:22 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 541403

Ban on gay unions solidly supported in most of Arizona By Daniel Scarpinato arizona daily star Tucson, Arizona \| Published: 11.05.2008 advertisement Marriage will be defined as a union of one man and one woman in the Arizona Constitution. With Proposition 102 enjoying solid support statewide Tuesday night, Arizonans essentially reversed a 2006 vote against such a measure, ensuring the definition of marriage can never be changed by a judge or the Legislature, as has happened elsewhere. Returns showed the measure passing in every county but Pima, and even there it was only failing narrowly. In effect, the amendment bans gay marriage. Such unions were already prohibited in state statute, but the law was vulnerable to change. And a California Supreme Court decision earlier this year ignited concerns that an Arizona court could overturn state law. The campaign in Arizona was a repeat of the 2006 campaign, when Arizona voters became the first in the nation to turn down a constitutional definition of marriage. But this year's definition was simpler: It didn't include a ban on domestic partnership benefits or block the potential for civil unions. And it was that element that allowed opponents two years ago to frame the measure as an attack on unmarried opposite-sex couples — avoiding the more sensitive issue of gay marriage. "The measure seemed to really unite and resonate with Arizona voters," said Cathi Herrod, president of the Center for Arizona Policy, the group that led the effort. Opponents argued the amendment was a waste of time and a cause largely funded by members of the Mormon church. However, they were outraised by a margin of nearly 14 to 1. "The Mormon church was very involved and was not in the past," said Kyrsten Sinema, who led the campaign against the proposition. "That made a huge difference." ? Contact reporter Daniel Scarpinato at 307-4339 or dscarpinato@azstarnet.com

To: Lane3 who wrote (94099)	11/5/2008 4:18:25 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541403

Karen - More and more, as I think about it, I think States should get out of the marriage business altogether. Let States recognize Civil Unions only, for both hetero and homosexual couples. Let these Civil Unions confer all the legal privileges presently attached to marriage. If people want to be married, that should be a matter for churches. Maybe someday we can have a sensible solution like that. Meanwhile, fear and prejudice continue to rule the day. - Allen