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To: Ruffian who wrote (279148)	11/6/2008 10:54:37 AM
From: greenspirit	9 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793781

In less than 48 hours since the election, there have been more attacks by leftist on SI and the media toward Governor Palin as there have been toward President elect Obama. Lack of class is certainly showing its ugly face these days. I actually heard an MSNBC anchor person state "she is going to Alaska to hide from the media". Huh, she's the Governor of Alaska. She has a job to do, where else should she be going? Incredible the hate Palin syndrome that's developed. It's very similar to the hate Bush syndrome. I suppose people on the left just have a need to hate something.... One would think they would be happy and celebrating the Obama victory. Instead they enjoy taking nasty jabs on Governor Palin instead. That says quite a bit about who they really are.

To: Ruffian who wrote (279148)	11/6/2008 10:59:50 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793781

Karl Rove, whose political acumen I have the deepest respect for, seems to have omitted the most important single factor in Mr. Obama's election: The Mainstream Media. Personally, I cannot imagine Rove inadvertently overlooked this factor, as it was clearly what ultimately decided the race. A total lack of willingness on the part of the media to perform even the most rudimentary investigation of Mr. Obama's history effectively won the race for him. With the help of an abject unwillingness to report on what those negative findings that did surface. To Mr. Obama's credit, he is clearly the most gifted speaker to run for office in more than a generation. Personally, I cannot remember a better one. The gift is his ability to confidently stand before large crowds and deliver a message that is sufficiently vague that his speeches inspire others, while obfuscating his lack of a record of any significant accomplishment. Yes, it is true the youth vote was critical. And who could miss the near-100% commitment of the black vote. But had the media done its job early on these demographics would not have taken the dug-in positions supporting Mr. Obama that allowed him to win this tight race. The question now is whether the media will make restitution. The Founders endowed upon the media its unbridled freedom with some hesitation -- they knew that giving them special status was a double-edged sword, yet, they believed that a free media would serve as an "unofficial", independent examiner of the legislative and executive branches. Now, the stars have aligned for the incoming president. His life-long extreme positions will be unchecked by an extreme, partisan Congress run amok. It is up to the media to serve as the watchdogs the Founding Fathers envisioned; to make the public informed as to Mr. Obama's dealings; and to prevent the mangling of our Constitution by a consortium hell-bent on destroying it. I have a great hope that Mr. Obama will be instilled with a sense of responsibility as he approaches the Oval Office. The reports of pending appointments like Rahm Emanuel, the Kennedys, and Paul Volcker are not encouraging -- these are suggestive not of any bipartisan spirit but of cronyism of the most extreme nature.

To: Ruffian who wrote (279148)	11/6/2008 12:28:18 PM
From: beach_bum	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793781

Re: "for the third election in a row the exit polls were trash. The raw numbers forecast an 18-point Obama win, news organizations who underwrote the poll arbitrarily dialed it down to a 10-point Obama edge, and the actual margin was six." Thats doesn't sound right. RCP has a final average margin of 7.6% and Obama won by 6. He seem to be cherrypicking Polls here. The exits polls (I was following CNN) predicted a very close race in Virginia, Florida, NC and Missouri. - Turned out to be true. Also predicted easy victory for Obama in PA, Indiana!, Nevada and Colorado. they were right, except for Indiana, where it was very close. Surprising to see this written by Rove, who is generally very good with numbers. I thought the polls reflected the final results a lot better, than the previous 2 presidential election. Good analysis otherwise though. Bum.