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To: Rambi who wrote (94348)	11/6/2008 12:36:46 PM
From: Rambi	Respond to of 541561

Tim, Ever compulsive, I found the latest one I was remembering... Marie Stopes International. From a Christoff column: The latest bout of reproductive-health madness came in the last couple of weeks when the U.S. Agency for International Development ordered six African countries to ensure that no U.S.-financed condoms, birth control pills, I.U.D.’s or other contraceptives are furnished to Marie Stopes International, a British-based aid group that operates clinics in poor countries. The Bush administration says it took this action because Marie Stopes International works with the U.N. Population Fund in China. President Bush has cut all financing for the population fund on the — false — basis that it supports China’s family-planning program Now must go do something constructive........ time for real life to begin I guess.

To: Rambi who wrote (94348)	11/6/2008 12:37:10 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 541561

Obviously, the abortion issue isn't something we can solve At least not any time soon. I wasn't trying to argue the broader issue here, just pointing out its rather questionable as an issue of "inclusion". As for more stringent abortion laws, didn't two attempts at that get voted down this week? At least one (maybe both, I didn't look it up) was an attempt to define the unborn child as a human life. Not that this would have much of a practical effect in the context of Roe vs Wade and the subsequent decisions by the USSC, but it could be seen as an attempt to move towards outlawing all abortions. Outlawing all abortions gets opposed by a majority. Bush and the slashing of budgets for birth control I don't know the specific facts, but I consider it unlikely. Bush didn't slash much of anything. And often budgets get falsely called slashed when they didn't even get cut, let alone slashed. most especially abortion Abortions didn't receive significant federal funding before Bush, and federal funding of abortion is not a position that receives majority support. When the Republican party allows its identification to lean too far to the Evangelical right Its identification in the minds of the left, but really the Republicans have done very little for the evangelical right. Doesn't matter who made the laws, the more inclusive party NOW is the Dems. I don't think either idea is a very solid one.