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To: Mac Con Ulaidh who wrote (43544)11/6/2008 3:18:51 PM
From: nigel bates  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
>> But I never have, nor ever could, support a party that I know makes downing gays a part of its overt or 'clandestine' platform<<

I think that's a part of why he endorsed Obama this time around - and Kerry in 2004.

But if you've been a conservative all your life, why shouldn't you fight (as he consistently has) to make your party accept you ? Changing side would be admitting defeat.

Part of the problem is that Republicans who aren't bigots have acquiesced in making anti-LGBT issues an electoral wedge. Sullivan has done a tremendous amount of good in fighting this - and taken a huge amount of shit for doing so.

If you're against tribal politics, then you shouldn't be calling people like him 'traitor'.



To: Mac Con Ulaidh who wrote (43544)11/6/2008 3:22:48 PM
From: nigel bates  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
>> I preferred that Obama, if he 'likes' gays okay, kept things quiet... not let it be an issue. I can handle being a tad 'dissed' if it works to an end.<<

My hope is that he won't need to be (and won't be) quiet in 2012.

If his first term isn't a disaster, then he will get easily re-elected in 2012. He will have incumbency and demographics on his side, and there isn't a republican who will be able to give him a contest.


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