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To: Rambi who wrote (94558)	11/7/2008 1:50:19 PM
From: Katelew	Respond to of 543757

Don't mess with mamabears Indeed. We all have perfect children, don't we?? <gg>

To: Rambi who wrote (94558)	11/7/2008 3:04:43 PM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543757

<<<The conservative core values of family and personal responsibility shouldn't change- and I believe that these values are no less important to most Democrats. >>> It is ironic that conservatives support Sarah Palin whose values produce a family that is basically dysfunctional. Their kids dropping out of high school and get pregnant out of wedlock and before completing high school. In contrast, the Obama family all succeed beyond graduating from college. You can just look at their kids and know they are doing well in school and without a doubt will go on to college. It is clear that there is something more to this than the phoney "family values" rhetoric they spout.

To: Rambi who wrote (94558)	11/7/2008 3:25:46 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543757

Family and personal responsibility are of utmost importance to me, and to everyone I know. I think it's bizarre that anyone might think they have the lock on family, responsibility or values. While we all have values, not ALL our values are equally deserving of being enforced by the state, and I'd argue that those of us with values that include or encourage bigotry probably shouldn't be allowed to press the levers of government in order to get the state to enforce our values. That, to me, is the final question. Should your values be mandated by the state? If they take away someone else's rights just because you are "uncomfortable" with actions that really hurt no one else, you can take your values home, and try to stomp them in to your children, but keep your hands off the state and federal government.