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To: Elroy Jetson who wrote (365)	11/7/2008 12:38:11 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 445

My payment for taxes is an example of someone else initiating force or the threat of force against me. Its extortion pure and simple. Its probably justified, even necessary extortion (although the level of taxation that we currently have isn't necessary and IMO isn't justified), but that doesn't stop it from being extortion. Not giving me food if I don't pay for it, isn't an initiation of force against me. Your problem is you're intellectually dishonest. In addition to being false, that's irrelevant. Its ad-hominem, if it where true, and could be shown to be true, it would not support your argument.