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To: Ruffian who wrote (279593)	11/8/2008 11:22:50 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 793939

A submarine is never completely safe, but the Russian have been having too many of these accidents. This is just one more sign that something is wrong with the Russian submarine program.

To: Ruffian who wrote (279593)	11/9/2008 12:10:08 AM
From: nrg_crisis	1 Recommendation Respond to of 793939

Ruffian/all - found this after you mentioned the incident: Russian navy: sub accident kills more than 20 By STEVE GUTTERMAN, Associated Press Writer – 32 mins ago MOSCOW – An accident aboard a nuclear-powered Russian navy submarine doing a test run in the Pacific Ocean on Saturday killed more than 20 people, the navy said. The nuclear reactor aboard the submarine was operating normally and radiation levels were normal, navy spokesman Capt. Igor Dygalo said on Sunday. The accident occurred when a fire-extinguishing system went into operation in error aboard the submarine, Dygalo said. He said there were 208 people aboard, including 81 servicemen. The dead included sailors and shipbuilders. The submarine was heading back to shore on its own power, and 21 people injured in the accident were evacuated to a ship that was escorting the sub. Dygalo said the destroyer Admiral Tributs and a rescue vessel were accompanying the submarine. (more) news.yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------- Personally, I take any statement from the Russian military as fiction with perhaps some scraps of fact mixed in, not vice-versa. State of the Russian Fleet: Due to continued political, economic and societal chaos in Russia, the Fleet is in a badly deteriorated state. Even those ships that remain in commission and theoretically operational are generally unable to deploy, due to lack of trained crews and lack of funds to buy fuel and stores. In general maintenance is minimal or nonexistent, and there are no funds to conduct much-needed overhauls, even for major fleet units. Many ships have been abandoned when repairs or refits came due. hazegray.org nrg