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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (163021)	11/9/2008 11:39:27 AM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

Funny, I just watched that piece on 60 Minutes from a month ago on the electric car. In a real free market, Lutz woulda been out on his arse long ago. So he remains in the executive suite, overpaid while losing money hand over fist for the shareholders. Yer political-industrial complex, like rust, never sleeps....

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (163021)	11/9/2008 12:04:33 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

Re: And besides, the stock options cases were for EMPLOYEE stock option plans not executive ones anyway. Apple products are built in Asia, primarily by Chinese workers. What are the details of their stock option plans? The Apple model consists of executives showering themselves with lottery winner salaries while the people who build the products they sell often literally starve. I have no illusions about those asian workers being even more likely to starve without the apple plants, but the notion that Apple's business model is anything other than plantation owners and slave workers is naive, at best. Whatever else you say about GM, its workers are as unreasonably and unsustainably compensated as its managers.... (well, a lot more of them than at Apple, at least. A lot of GM parts come from Asian factories, too) :-)