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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (279656)	11/9/2008 1:31:27 PM
From: DMaA	1 Recommendation Respond to of 793838

That would be the least embarrassing thing about his family history. like his folks not being married.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (279656)	11/9/2008 1:53:10 PM
From: Neeka	Respond to of 793838

I'm going out for the day soon, so I hope someone does the research and figures this out. I do remember someone, somewhere posting that if a U.S. citizen leaves the country, lives in a foreign country for more than 5 yrs after their 16th birthday and gives birth to a child after that 5 yrs has lapsed, the child is not considered a U.S. citizen, but rather a citizen of the country in which it was born. ( I may have this a little confused, and hope someone checks into this?) Evidently this is what Obama's mother did although I'm not familiar with the time line.......this is just what I've picked up here and there on line. His Kenyan Grandmother gave a statement saying she witnessed the birth in a hut in her village. She also stated that S. Ann Soetoro wanted to get on a plane immediately after the birth of her son, but the airline refused because of her weakened condition. I don't know...........it's all complicated. I'm sure we'll know a lot more about what a U.S. citizen is before the day is out.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (279656)	11/9/2008 2:00:41 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793838

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between "December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: ".If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai'i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years prior to Barack Obama's birth, but after age 16. It doesn't matter after. In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawai'i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.