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To: Katelew who wrote (95227)11/10/2008 11:27:59 PM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541455
 
>>I'm curious now to know if my church has had any success with theirs and will let you know.<<

Kate -

I saw a documentary about the Mormon programs, which did not make them look effective at all. It covered some of the early renditions of these programs, which included forcing men to watch gay porn while giving them nausea-inducing drugs and/or electric shocks. But it also dealt with the more current "treatments," and found them to be ineffective as well. This could have been due to bias, but it does confirm everything modern psychology says about homosexuality - namely that people's sexuality is something they are born with.

I also personally know a woman who was raised in a devout Mormon family, and was extremely devout herself, until she went to college. In high school, she had always been too busy for boys.

During her Sophomore year, I believe it was, she began developing feelings for another woman. She was horribly conflicted about this, and went straight to the Church for help. She received all kinds of counseling and advice, but none of it helped to ease the conflict between the beliefs she had so strongly held all her life, and her own feelings. She realized that she had never been attracted to men in any way, and had always sublimated her sexuality through hard work and sports.

Eventually, she decided that the Church was wrong about homosexuality - that love could not be a bad thing, no matter what form it might take. Also, she could not imagine a life without any kind of sexual fulfillment whatsoever. Having made that decision, she finally rejected all of the church's teachings.

She's now a happy, productive member of society. She has a good job, and lives with her lover and their two dogs. They have bought several houses together, fixed them up and rented them out.

In the past few years, she has come out to her family. It was a shock to them, but she has been able to reconcile with her father and stepmother. Her older brother still cannot accept her choice.

- Allen



To: Katelew who wrote (95227)11/11/2008 10:15:54 AM
From: KonKilo  Respond to of 541455
 
I'm curious now to know if my church has had any success with theirs and will let you know.

I'm curious too:

Did God tell you directly that male homosexuality is an abomination, or are you taking the word of the 4th century AD priests who claimed He told them?

I do not mean this sarcastically, but am truly interested in the thought process that led you to this conclusion.