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To: Bill Fischofer who wrote (761)10/22/1997 5:02:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh  Respond to of 878
 
Tell it to the judge, Bill. That other Bill has agreed to abide by his decision, I hear.



To: Bill Fischofer who wrote (761)10/22/1997 6:21:00 PM
From: drmorgan  Respond to of 878
 
It's that simple. Buy a Mac. Run Linux. Run OS/2.

Indeed there are those choices. My kid runs '95 and OS/2 on the same machine and is planning on adding Linux. So yes there are options, but the only problem is overall application support. I've often wondered what would have happened if MSFT supported OS/2 Warp when it was released before Win95. What if MSFT had developed all their 32bit app's to run on OS/2 and '95/NT and Unix platforms. And market those products as aggresively as the '95/NT ones. I still think that the majority of people would have stayed with Windows but it would have helped OS/2 in the desktop market, and what would be so bad about that? Sure MSFT would sell a few less copies of '95 but they would sell office suites etc. How would they lose on that? I know that is going against MSFT's insatiable thirst to completey own the entire software industry at all cost, but I just sometimes like to think how it could have been...

Derek



To: Bill Fischofer who wrote (761)10/22/1997 6:32:00 PM
From: Peter Chan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 878
 
Yeah, you are right. After MSFT use their power of monopoly on the
Windows OS to force the PC makers to bundle their IE4, and eventually
kills all other browsers. And then, you can say why the market don't
have any other browsers, well the answer is simple: "there is no
demand for such thing". And the same story goes on and on. And then
one day, MSFT control most of the PC software market, and you will be
forced accept whatever junks they made for whatever price they want.
That is the bad thing of monopoly. Do you think the IE4 will ever
exist if there is no Netscape. You see the beauty of competition, and
we all benefit from it.

What we need is a fair competition and choice of our own, not the one
use their power to force you the accept their stuff. If MSFT think
the IE4 is a good product, why don't MSFT let it compete with the
others in a fair basis.



To: Bill Fischofer who wrote (761)10/22/1997 6:50:00 PM
From: Judd  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 878
 
>>What's stopping you? What compells you to chose MSFT products?

Sorry to butt in here, BUT, I have been looking around to buy a new PC within the next week or so. I am having trouble finding one that doesn't come with Win95 on it. When I get it home it is going to have Linux and Windows NT on it (a copy I already own). I do not really want Microsoft to take credit for another person out there running Win95 when that isn't the truth. This is why I think their claims of numbers of PCs out there running 95, windows, etc. probably are exagerated. They will mark me down as another sucker who is running 95 and probably get some licensing fee for it (I am not sure how that works). My number for NT has already been counted 3-4 times over, it doesn't need to be counted again.

Also I think you are right about the standard. MS is becoming the standard because of the herd mentality. I know businesses are switching OSs from OS/2 and Unix to MS because the herd is forcing more applications to be written on MS platforms and it is easier just to stop fighting the herd and jump in, which makes the problem worse for the others left out there. This doesn't mean that they have a better platform by any means, just that it is becoming the standard is all.

Judd