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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (45180)11/19/2008 7:54:23 PM
From: koan  Respond to of 149317
 
>>Iffen the Chinese buy GM, and we get in a non-nuclear war with China and need GM to build tanks for us, do you think they will let us do it?<,

Exactly, and as usual, the Republian's cannot get that because it requires two steps of thinking-lol.



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (45180)11/19/2008 7:59:55 PM
From: T L Comiskey  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 149317
 
re
Iffen the Chinese buy GM, and we get in a non-nuclear war with China and need GM to build tanks for us, do you think they will let us do it?

what happens if they decide
to buy
all of our grain
on the open market

THE EMERGING POLITICS OF SCARCITY
From Chapter 1. Entering a New World

Lester R. Brown, Plan B 2.0:

Rescuing a Planet Under Stress
and a Civilization in Trouble (NY: W.W. Norton & Co., 2006).

The first big test of the international community’s capacity to manage scarcity may come with oil or it could come with grain. If the latter is the case, this could occur when China—whose grain harvest fell by 34 million tons, or 9 percent, between 1998 and 2005—turns to the world market for massive imports of 30 million, 50 million, or possibly even 100 million tons of grain per year. Demand on this scale could quickly overwhelm world grain markets. When this happens, China will have to look to the United States, which controls the world’s grain exports of over 40 percent of some 200 million tons. 32

This will pose a fascinating geopolitical situation. More than 1.3 billion Chinese consumers, who had an estimated $160-billion trade surplus with the United States in 2004—enough to buy the entire U.S. grain harvest twice—will be competing with Americans for U.S. grain, driving up U.S. food prices. In such a situation 30 years ago, the United States simply restricted exports. But China is now banker to the United States, underwriting much of the massive U.S. fiscal deficit with monthly purchases of U.S. Treasury bonds. 33

Within the next few years, the United States may be loading one or two ships a day with grain for China. This long line of ships stretching across the Pacific, like an umbilical cord providing nourishment, will intimately link the two economies. Managing this flow of grain so as to simultaneously satisfy the food needs of consumers in both countries, at a time when ethanol fuel distilleries are taking a growing share of the U.S. grain harvest, may become one of the leading foreign policy challenges of this new century.

The way the world accommodates the vast projected needs of China, India, and other developing countries for grain, oil, and other resources will help determine how the world addresses the stresses associated with outgrowing the earth. How low-income, importing countries fare in this competition for grain will also tell us something about future political stability. And, finally, the U.S. response to China’s growing demands for grain even as they drive up food prices for U.S. consumers will tell us much about the capacity of countries to manage the emerging politics of scarcity.



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (45180)11/19/2008 8:07:50 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 149317
 
If they could strip off the detroit assets from the liabilities, which afaik are only available in a BK, then there would be other potential buyers vs just the Chinese. Some of the new car companies out here might be interested. Tesla was looking at ops in Detroit I know and Fisker too.