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To: bart13 who wrote (99762)11/20/2008 8:43:30 PM
From: Robin Plunder  Respond to of 110194
 
nice chart...omfg...at least gold was up today...:)

sheize

robin



To: bart13 who wrote (99762)11/21/2008 12:06:23 PM
From: LTK007  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 110194
 
Edied:Well i see one bright spot, but only one, on that most excellent chart.

i estimate DOW retraced 50% of its 1929 lows before the great decline recommenced.

i have been nibbling on UYG, on a laddering down. Now have Cost/Basis of 5.57. Out side of that and one other position, i am 85% cash.

i saw a CNBC analyst on Squawk Box saying the bottom we hit this fall will be it, the final bottom, all up after that, a long bull market his implication and i just grimace.

His premise, the idea we will see a depression is POPPYCOCK.
He gives no basis for this view, it is a pronouncement, like he is some all-knowing master of markets.

But the market is saying otherwise

But if we have a 50% retrace off of the bottom the Bulls will be in sweaty exuberance.
To the wise and inquisitive i would suggest they comtemplate that 50% retrace that lasted into the spring of 1930 and what followed. Max

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This from Sachs.

Goldman Slashes U.S. Growth Forecasts, Says Recession Deepens

By Dave Liedtka

Nov. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Goldman Sachs Group Inc. increased its recession estimates, saying gross domestic product is declining at a 5 percent annual rate in the current quarter and will drop 3 percent and 1 percent in the next two quarters.


Unemployment will reach 9 percent by the fourth quarter of 2009, Goldman economists led by Jan Hatzius wrote in a research note today.

Last Updated: November 21, 2008 07:28 EST