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To: TimF who wrote (97487)11/26/2008 6:59:07 PM
From: cosmicforce  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541849
 
Bush, it has been reported by those interviewing particular childhood friends, was one of those people we heard rumored as blowing up frogs with firecrackers when we were kids. We always heard of people doing this kind of thing to cats and other animals but never actually knew one first hand... it was always "Bobby's cousin" or a "guy at my last school".

Do I believe these claims? Well, even as a boy, I'm sure he had no gravitas - he certainly doesn't have it now and for him or his minions making the decision to torture people in the name of the U.S. makes me sick. Gravitas isn't the kind of thing people lose with age. Bush has been videoed as he mocked a woman on death row "Oh, I don't want to die."<smirk>. I've seen video of that and find the frog charge to be likely based upon his ill-considered humor exemplified by his looking for WMDs under his desk during a national address. Bush produces insensitive guffaws that you simply can't find other professionals doing... "I better call my lawyer; he didn't bring that up to me...." <smirk> when asked about international law forbidding torture shows the contempt he holds for others who disagree with him and his policies. "Goodbye from the World's Biggest Polluter" <smirk>.

I'm so relieved he's leaving.



To: TimF who wrote (97487)11/27/2008 12:36:47 PM
From: Suma  Respond to of 541849
 
Tim see if you can locate Road to Guantanamo which was either a Frontline,Nova or Independent Lens production on the PBS channel... It shows what kinds of treatment the prisoners received. It did not show water boarding however.

Very illuminating film on the round up of the alleged terrorists we collected in the first off shoot of 9/11.

Unfortunately the net scooped up a lot of innocents who finally were released but what they had to endure prior to that decision was definitely torture... in any body's book.



To: TimF who wrote (97487)11/27/2008 2:22:06 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 541849
 
Correction - The lead sentence in that post should read

"The idea is not that "waterboarding is ok, but rather that it (esp, very limited application of it), doesn't mean that you rise (or would that be sink) to the level of Hitler or the Khmer Rouge."