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Politics : The Obama - Clinton Disaster -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (2501)	12/2/2008 1:35:55 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Respond to of 103300

Re: "I don't think our gov't ever really wanted him.......cause they would have caught him already." I suppose that's possible, to some small extent. (Given the long financial history between the Bush family and the bin Laden family - not to mention other notable Saudis with diverse relationships to W'habbists - I suppose it's possible that they may have hoped that he would die quietly and obscurely somewhere... off-camera, and not draw even greater attention....)

To: Patricia Trinchero who wrote (2501)	12/2/2008 3:21:50 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 103300

"The real problem is the war lords that live around Pakistan and Afghanistan..................they are crazy people who have no scruples at all ( and that is from a friend who is from Pakistan...............she said that the Taliban was bad, but they were lots better than the warlords who are totally bizarre. Everyone fears the war lords in that region." I agree with the 'Bush Doctrine' --- (which was used to justify our making war against the Taliban government in Afghanistan) --- if nations allow terrorists or other militants to harbor and train on their territory, and to launch attacks against other nations ('war by proxy') then they can be held RESPONSIBLE for those actions. And... if a nation says that it 'has no control' over a particular area... (as Pakistan is fond of claiming about the 'ungoverned areas'), that it is 'not in charge there', 'not responsible' for what happens there --- then that nation has admitted that it's sovereignty DOES NOT APPLY there, that they have no sovereignty there... and so they have no sovereign right to complain if other nations act in self-defense to take out threats that are harboring there. With national sovereignty it's "USE it, or LOSE it!" Either a nation a nation can be held RESPONSIBLE for what goes on on their own soil... or they give up responsibility and with that, give up the right to complain if other nations have to do the heavy lifting necessary to protect themselves....