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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (56366)12/3/2008 12:28:34 AM
From: Hope Praytochange3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224713
 
"I have to say, I am very disappointed with the President elect. He was voted in on the idea that he represented change and so far all he's done is surround himself with the same old retreads we've all seen before. It's very sad that the guy hasn't even taken office and he's deviated from many of the platforms he was elected on. I am sadly disillusioned."

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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (56366)12/3/2008 6:43:28 AM
From: lorne3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224713
 
ken...."If Chambliss wants any of that stimulus money for Georgia, he will not be an obstructionist."....

Thoughts from a liberal mind? .....threats for not doing dem party bidding...way to go ken.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (56366)12/3/2008 7:30:35 AM
From: lorne3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224713
 
Ken...The only " CHANGE " obama has provided so far is his mind..as he did on so many topics during campaign...so what do you think..is he what you thought he was? :-)

Symposium: Barackracy hypocrisy

December 03, 2008
Ellis Washington
worldnetdaily.com

While I have heard McCain state many times, "I am not George Bush," I have never heard Obama say once, "I am not Bill Clinton."
~ Professor Leonard McCoy, Savannah State University

Socrates (470-399 B.C.) was a famous Greek philosopher from Athens who taught Plato, who taught Aristotle, who taught Alexander the Great. Socrates used a method of teaching by asking questions. The Greeks called this form "dialectic" – starting from a thesis or question, then discussing ideas and moving back and forth between points of view to determine how well ideas stand up to critical review with the ultimate principle of the dialogue being Veritas – Truth.

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Socrates (a pseudonym for the author)
Professor Leonard McCoy
{Setting: Department of Political Science, Savannah State University}

Socrates: We are gathered here today at this Symposium to discuss whether Barack Obama's rhetoric matches reality – Is Obama really about "Change we can believe in"; "We need to bring change to Washington, D.C."; "I will bring change we can believe in"; or is it just more of the same political charade?

Professor McCoy: First let me state that while my political background has been with the Democrat Party, intellectually I am an independent, and on some issues ideologically a conservative. For the past 20 years, I have operated at the highest levels of party politics – state and local government in both Ohio and New Jersey, working effectively with radicals, liberals, moderates and conservatives.

The reason why I raise the question of Barackracy hypocrisy is because of the two years he has been on the campaign trail when he frequently distinguished himself from his archrival, Hillary Rodham Clinton, by promising a new paradigm in politics that would be open and transparent from top to bottom.

Socrates: What is the context and the concept of Obama's "transparency"?

McCoy: Based on his recent transitional team and his early appointments, the process by which these individuals have been selected and vetted have not at all been transparent in that Barack made a statement that he would always listen and engage the American people and make their opinions a high priority. Indeed, have the America people elected Barack Obama or Bill Clinton, part II? Furthermore, the American people have some questions relative to the Clinton legacy, which has become so prominent in the Obama administration.

Socrates: What about the fact that 31 of the 47 people so far named to the transitional team or as part of the Obama administration have ties to the Clinton administration, including all but one of the members of his 12-person Transition Advisory Board and both of his White House staff choices?

Former Clinton or past appointees who are in Obama's Cabinet include:

Rahm Emmanuel, chief of staff
Hillary Clinton, secretary of state
Paul Volker, former chairman of the Federal Reserve
Ron Klain, Biden's chief of staff
Larry Summers, senior economic adviser (mentor to Timothy Geithner)
Timothy Geithner, secretary of treasury
Bill Richardson, secretary of commerce
John Podesta, transition chief
Eric Holder, former deputy attorney general
Tom Daschle, former Democratic leader in the U.S. Senate, secretary of health and human services
David Axelrod, chief strategist
Gene Sperling, economic adviser
Neera Tanden, policy director
McCoy: Obama talked about change from the bottom up, but when you look at what Obama is doing, the change is from the top down. There seems to be something very sinister here. "Change we can believe in" was a major political slogan of Obama. Is this Barackracy hypocrisy? Who is making the decisions of his campaign?

The assumption is the promise of "change" Obama made to the American people; however, the first opportunity he has to make good on his promise of change, not only did he bring in other people from his opponent's administration, but that he brought in Hillary as his chief foreign policy voice. Is this change we can really believe in or more of the same?

Socrates:Professor McCoy, are you implying a quid pro quo between Obama and Clinton – her capitulation to concede the nomination to him for her appointment to a high-profile Cabinet position?

McCoy: While I'm not a conspiracy theorist, as we revisit the justification of why Obama is using so many former Clinton appointees, the reason Obama gave is that he is following the Abraham Lincoln "team of rivals" model to staff his Cabinet – in other words, government by consensus. However, I question the validity of Obama's premise because three of the four Lincoln rivals were gone by the end of his first term as president. This Obama Barackracy rings of hypocrisy. Is this a team of rivals or a rival of teams?

Socrates: Do you think Obama put Hillary in that position?

McCoy: Perhaps Hillary was not Obama's choice for secretary of state. I believe that there are some unseen, nefarious forces within the Democrat Party that are still alive and have some major influence on his decision-making. The only change Obama seems to have brought thus far is a change in skin color, not in policy. Ironically, his financial and national security teams are more conservative even than President Bush.

Does Obama represent the change in America based upon the Constitution, or a change that the office of the presidency is the last office to be integrated? He doesn't represent change for the disenfranchised, those who are dying prematurely because they are not getting the same health care, education, employment, the declining economy, our superpower status in the international community. His campaign was directed at the middle class, not the poor. How can that be change?

MLK, on the other hand, dealt with the heart of all humanity, the things that were important to all of us. Therefore, he brought a social consciousness, a challenge to America to fulfill Jefferson's ideal: "We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal ..." To bequeath to all Americans "Life, liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." However, Obama, while mimicking the persona of JFK, virtually all of his policies are diametrical to his. For example, consider the aphorism JFK uttered in his Inaugural Address Jan. 20, 1961 – "A rising tide raises all boats."

Socrates: What do you mean by the polemical phrase "Barackracy hypocrisy"?

McCoy: Based on the decisions we've seen thus far from Obama, I am not at all convinced that this man has the presidential will power to really sever the political ties to the liberal establishment of the past and to reconstruct a new brand of politics, a substantive political paradigm where the will of "We the People" are of singular importance to Obama's agenda. While I have heard McCain state many times, "I am not George Bush," I have never heard Obama say once, "I am not Bill Clinton." On the contrary, he has never tried to disassociate himself from Bill and Hillary Clinton, the Clinton regime and most regrettable, the old liberal Democrat establishment.

Socrates, in conclusion, the questions we're seeking to answer regarding Barack's presidency is the decision-making force behind the bureaucracy: Is Obama an authentic historical figure of change, or is Barackracy the latest hypocrisy?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (56366)12/3/2008 7:47:51 AM
From: Justin C3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224713
 
Is Chicago-style thuggery now in charge of Georgia?

If Chambliss wants any of that stimulus money for Georgia, he will not be an obstructionist.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (56366)12/3/2008 11:51:36 AM
From: Neeka3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224713
 
Saxby Chambliss has more honor in his little finger than all of the money grubbing liberals in congress combined. It is a very good thing Georgians realize that fact.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (56366)12/3/2008 12:04:01 PM
From: Ann Corrigan2 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224713
 
Ken, is the following O appointment a warning to state governments to dare not enforce immigration laws? Prediction: This choice will produce nothing other than strife and turmoil for his administration. She's an 18yr veteran of La Raza:

Pro-Amnesty Activist Joins Obama White House Staff

By Penny Starr, Senior Staff Writer, cns.com, 12/03/08

(CNSNews.com) – An 18-year veteran of the National Council of La Raza (NCLR), who advocated for federal legislation to give the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States a path to citizenship, has been tapped for President-elect Barack Obama’s White House staff.

Cecilia Muñoz, who currently serves as senior vice president for the office of research, advocacy and legislation at the NCLR, will serve as director for intergovernmental affairs in the Obama administration.

..In her new post, Muñoz will be responsible for managing relations between the Obama administration and state and local governments. She is a first-generation American whose parents came to the United States from Bolivia.

Muñoz, 46, said in an essay aired on National Public Radio on Sept. 26, 2005, that the anger sparked by what she considered a racist remark about Latinos made by a friend when she was 17 shaped her successful career as an immigration activist.

“My outrage that day became a propellant of my life, driving me straight to the civil rights movement, where I’ve worked ever since,” Muñoz said. “I guess outrage got me pretty far. I found jobs in the immigrant rights movement. I moved to Washington to work as an advocate. I found plenty to be angry about along the way and built something of a reputation for being strident.

“I’m deeply familiar with that hollow place that outrage carves in your soul,” Muñoz said in the National Public Radio essay. “I’ve fed off it to sustain my work for many years.”

Bob Dane, spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), told CNSNews.com that the director of intergovernmental affairs will play a critical role in the next administration, but it is a role that may be difficult for Muñoz to fulfill, given her background.

“Her affiliation with La Raza taints her ability to represent the broader national interest,” Dane said. “La Raza exists as a way to systematically dismantle enforcement and any semblance of discipline in the immigration system. Are we to believe that she is going to distance herself in her new role to represent the broader national interest?”

..At a speech at the University of Michigan’s Gerald R. Ford School of Public Policy in March 2007, Muñoz spoke about how the public, including the media, did not understand the NCLR’s goal of economic equity and social justice for immigrants.

“My organization in particular gets challenged, especially in the media,” Muñoz said. “I’m not just taking about talk radio or Fox, but even CNN. We get portrayed as a radical, U.S.-hating, brown beret-wearing separatist organization hell-bent on retrieving the Southwest United States for Mexico, which is really silly.”

She said previous attempts at immigration reform in the United States failed because legislation took a “hostile’ approach to solving what Muñoz said is “one of the most important domestic policies of our time.”

She cited legislation passed in Pennsylvania, for example, which made renting property to illegal aliens against the law, and road blocks on Georgia highways “because local police had gotten into the business of immigration enforcement.”

“They thought, ‘If we round people up, if we make the climate hostile, illegal aliens will go away,” Muñoz said.

She said people were detained for days and even weeks because they couldn’t prove they were U.S. citizens.

Muñoz said she supported comprehensive immigration reform that required people who are in the United States illegally to come forward, prove they have no criminal record and are paying taxes, pay a fine, start to learn English, and then be put on a path to citizenship that would take about 10 years to complete.

“We’re not rewarding illegality,” Muñoz said. “We are asking (illegal immigrants) to earn something and we’re asking them to pay a fine. And then we need to move on.”

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