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To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (169552)	12/6/2008 8:15:52 PM
From: Bank Holding Company	Respond to of 306849

> you realize that would almost pay for the entire population of the US healthcare for one year << Minimum standards established in 1974. It would be funny if it were not so sad.... The Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (ERISA) is a federal law that sets minimum standards for most voluntarily established pension and health plans in private industry to provide protection for individuals in these plans.-- dol.gov

To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (169552)	12/6/2008 8:34:47 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

>>We could take that 800 billion and use it to fund universal healthcare for one thing, you realize that would almost pay for the entire population of the US healthcare for one year if we had the same system as most of the EU and Japan? it would cover ALL COSTS.<< this assumes the replacement energy cost of that $800 billion is $0. what a silly assumption. UH NO, I made no such assumption, silly. I only suggested that that 800 billion in wealth stay in the USA. Today we send 800 billion offshore to another nation. Yes we get something in return but if we managed to create the same amt of BTUs here, either with alternatives or more drilling or what have you, that is 800 billion in wealth that doesn't leave our shores. Has nothing to do with the value equation, it is more of a trade imbalance issue, similar to how much wealthier we as a nation would be if manufacturing was here, vs in China. The fact that 2 people actually rec'd your post has me wondering about this thread and their knowledge to trade issues.

To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (169552)	12/6/2008 8:34:50 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

>>We could take that 800 billion and use it to fund universal healthcare for one thing, you realize that would almost pay for the entire population of the US healthcare for one year if we had the same system as most of the EU and Japan? it would cover ALL COSTS.<< this assumes the replacement energy cost of that $800 billion is $0. what a silly assumption. UH NO, I made no such assumption, silly. I only suggested that that 800 billion in wealth stay in the USA. Today we send 800 billion offshore to another nation. Yes we get something in return but if we managed to create the same amt of BTUs here, either with alternatives or more drilling or what have you, that is 800 billion in wealth that doesn't leave our shores. Has nothing to do with the value equation, it is more of a trade imbalance issue, similar to how much wealthier we as a nation would be if manufacturing was here, vs in China, since we are the ultimate consumers. The fact that 2 people actually rec'd your post has me wondering about this thread and their knowledge to trade issues. Your response was naive to say the least.