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To: Brumar89 who wrote (149323)	12/7/2008 8:48:42 PM
From: Land Shark	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

>Calgary is not a rural area. I live in Calgary. Getting an MRI is no problem. A close relative of mine fell and broke their cheekbone. We took her to the hospital and the waiting time was about 2 hours. The doctor ordered an MRI and it was done within the hour. Fortunately it was just a simple fracture. In the USA OTOH, one would have to worry about insurance coverage, co-payments and deductibles. And the policy is packed with fine print to avoid payment. The insurance co. is packed with BUREAUCRATS paid to reduce costs for the insurance company (that means using the fine print against you) No Canadian is EVER bankrupted by medical bills or denied payment because of "prior condition" or fine print in the policy. I never hear of anyone being upset about wait times, which are similar to those in the USA. In Calgary, they're building a nice brand new HUGE hospital. I hope I don't have to use it, but it's nice to know it's there. A few years ago, they opened a HUGE Children's hospital here. Every so once and a while I hear the hospital helicopter whisking an emergency case off to the hospital. It's reassuring that that's available. We LOVE our system. There's no party supporting a devolution into a USA style private system. You're getting raped by the insurers, drug companies, medical services cos., doctors and private hospitals. For all this raping, you're getting nothing superior to anything here in Canada. Your life expectancy is lower and your infant mortality is higher. You can have your system.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (149323)	12/7/2008 10:02:54 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

The USA spends more per capita than everyone else even though all of capita isn't getting all the health care that it needs. If the Canadians or the French or the Taiwanese were to spend what we spend per capita, their systems would far eclipse ours. The reality is that the US health care system sucks and it is getting worse. Most people do not need cutting edge care, most people need to remain healthy on a daily basis for as long as they live. The health care system isn't about promoting health, it is about profiting from sickness. It is about surgery where pain medication will do or drugs where a change in diet is called for. When you are in a for-profit mode, sickness is where all the action is. When the system becomes all about expense and not profit, we can put resources where they count: prevention, efficiency and cure. What drug company wants to cure when they can make money from chronic illness held at bay for a large population by expensive, frequent, patented medication for life?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (149323)	12/7/2008 10:11:00 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

50% of bankruptcies due to medical bills is nothing to crow about either when we pay double per capita than most industrialized countries. Exactly WHAT are you proud about? We are the richest country in human history and this is how citizens live? It is a national disgrace. We have promised $8.5 TRILLION to the shadow banking system of gambling bankers, fradulent loan officers, incompetent CEOS and their ilk, it is PATENTLY OBVIOUS that we have more than enough resources to make nationalized, single payer health a reality.... TODAY.