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Politics : The Obama - Clinton Disaster -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jlallen who wrote (2807)	12/8/2008 1:25:06 PM
From: TideGlider	Respond to of 103300

You are correct. Suppressing information makes it more appealing to discover what is being hidden. Why has he caused this? He only had to be straight forward.

To: jlallen who wrote (2807)	12/8/2008 1:25:45 PM
From: PROLIFE	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 103300

nut cases on the right you say? dang jlallen, you going lefty on us? You sitting on that cozy couch with Gingrich and Pelosi? Seems a correct thing would be for the chosen "One" to simply produce a legal document. BTW, there are two viable parties in America, should be much more, but two is what we have to work with now..and I have news for you. Playing pattycake with the Dems is a ONE WAY STREET. Polarization is not such a bad thing, as I want nothing to do with the party of death and socialism.

To: jlallen who wrote (2807)	12/8/2008 1:48:39 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 103300

"this will encourage nutcases on the right to kep the issue alive for years..." Yes. But they ALWAYS WERE going to do that ANYWAY! <GGG> Just look at how the arguments had already moved from 'he was not born in America' to 'yes, we admit he was born in America... but he held dual British citizenship through his daddy, and, by the way, McCain and the Socialist candidate were not "natural born" either!' And, how the claims have moved from 'he was born in Kenya' to 'no, his daddy was Malcom X, and he was born in Seattle', to 'no, scratch that! His daddy was a famous leftist poet!'.... (Next, you know, ET will be invoked in the conspiracy dribble don't 'cha know....) So, given that constant of Conspiracy Thinking --- that NO PROOF will EVER suffice to alleviate the paranoia and the doubts... rather, every additional increment of presented proof will only spur-off yet another round of new conspiracy imaginings, because that is the nature of paranoia.... Given that fact, than just turn the issue around and imagine the beauty of it from a political point-of-view: It is almost 'genius' in the effect it has of walling off the conspiracy thinkers from the mainstream of public thought! It confines them to an ever smaller 'nutty land', a shrinking little bit of Terra Firma under their feet that is separated from the mainstream of public consciousness by an ever-widening moat. (Strictly examined from an "Art of War', or a Machiavellian perspective, where politics is war and war is politics --- than an approach like this is political jujitsu on a truly professional level... where the single most EFFECTIVE, and 'cost-efficient', mode of attack against an unredeemable political enemy is to reduce them to the level of public laughingstock. Striving ever and anon to come up with yet more fanciful and illogical and ridiculous-sounding charges. :-) THAT WAY lies political oblivion.

To: jlallen who wrote (2807)	12/8/2008 5:03:21 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™	1 Recommendation Respond to of 103300

nutcases on the right What are you talking about? It would be so easy to produce the hospital's birth and delivery notes, this would end the issue forever... "a bonehead move by obama," to say the least... you know as well as I do that if it takes less effort to produce those documents than it takes to keep them sealed, then he has something to hide, don't abandon common sense... or is obama stupid enough to overplay his hand like sadam did and make believe he had something to hide in an ill fated attempt to fool the world? If obama has nothing to hide, then why the secrecy? I hope he does the right thing for our country, but I still think he's a fraud and a charlatan, and he has the ability to put this issue to rest forever, but he won't because he can't...<g> GZ