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To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (149509)	12/9/2008 2:03:45 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

You confuse rights with laws and societal norms. Is that intentional?

To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (149509)	12/9/2008 2:14:20 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

It has been demonstrated that segregation resulted in institutionalized differences that were unequal and a disadvantage for people of a minority race. So it was successfully argued that the separate but equal assumption was flawed and must be abandoned for social justice to prevail. Cohabitation between a man and a woman of different races was restricted by law but it was shown that miscegenation was not harmful to society or individuals, so relevant laws that would place restrictions on this type of relationship were likewise abandoned. Marriage is a classification not a right. It has been shown that gays are not unequal or disadvantaged in substantive measures or legally whether married or unmarried, nor are they discriminated against by laws of participation in society. Classification of marriage has not been shown to disadvantage gays and gay unions. Gays are not restricted from cohabiting or bonding at various levels of union and commitment both legally and informally.

To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (149509)	12/9/2008 5:19:37 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Marriage is an ancient institution and in the west has meant the union of one man and one woman for at least 2000 years or so. There had never been racial restrictions on marriage in the west till the anti-miscegenation laws passed during the slavery era. Those laws were novel changes to an ancient institution and in that respect are similar to what liberals want to impose now. Those laws, in those states which had them, forbade people of different races from living together as man and wife. See Loving v VA - state officials arrested an inter-racial married couple for living together, sleeping together, and having married one another outside the state. No one and no law is preventing gay couples from doing any of those things.