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To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (149625)	12/9/2008 7:37:55 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Exactly, you are the first person I have seen to point that one out about the intent of the consitution. Equality and justice for all, instead of despots and monarchs running peoples's lives. The catch 22 is that it takes a logical person to figure that out, but the logical people have already figured that one out and the rest can't seem to get it? 60 years ago the same folks could not figure out how outragous segregation was, 90 years ago they could not undstand that women should get to vote, and 150 years ago they could not figure out slavery was wrong. Always the same types of people. Conservatives, were the antagonists agaisnt freeing the slaves, giving women the right to vote, and abolishing segregation and now bashign gays. It was the liberals who were the protagonists in the fight against slavery; and the liberals that led the fight for a women's right to vote; and the liberals who led the fight for integration; and now the liberals who are leading the fight for equal rights for gays to marry. Gheesh-lol. << Marriage is an ancient institution The United States is a 200 year old revolution against ancient institutions. Should we bring back the divine right of kings and slavery because they were ancient institutions too? SD<<

To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (149625)	12/9/2008 7:55:44 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 173976

We did rebel against the divine right of kings. But our founding fathers did not rebel agaisnt every cultural and moral value of their society. They didn't overturn marriage (or the family), not the understanding of what marraige was meant to be. Slavery was another issue. Most of the founding fathers recognized it as an evil institution but couldn't eliminate it right away due to the influence of those who owned slaves. Slavery, while an ancient institution, had been largely eliminated from Christian societies a few centuries after Christianity was established. When European countries founded overseas colonies, they brought back slavery but never in their own homeland and eventually they outlawed it everywhere.