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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (56754)12/10/2008 2:49:17 PM
From: Neeka2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224741
 
Don't know why you're so hung up on it Kenneth? No one implied there is a conspiracy, only that corruption within the dem party is rampant.

BTW

This completely corrupt individual needs to be at least fired, at most incarcerated:

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The growing embarrassment that is Charlie Rangel

How much longer can Nancy Pelosi and the House Democrats keep Charlie Rangel as the head of the Ways and Means Committee and in charge of all tax legislation? Froma Harrop makes clear the sleazy stuff that Rangel has been involved in.

Company gives $100,000 to congressman's pet cause. Congressman protects company tax loophole worth tens of millions. Bam! Company gives pet cause another $100,000 check.

Sounds like old times in the Republican Congress of former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. But this is happening in the Democratic Congress of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. What a way to greet the new dawn of the Obama era.

The congressman is Charles B. Rangel, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. The cause is the future Charles B. Rangel School of Public Service at the City University of New York. And the company is Nabors Industries, an oil driller that has pledged a total of $1 million to the school.

There was nothing subtle here. Nabors CEO Eugene Isenberg reportedly met with Rangel the day the Harlem Democrat's committee marked up the bill of interest. Shortly after the tax shelter was secured, the second check cleared. (Cynics will be happy to learn that there's also an Isenberg School of Management at the University of Massachusetts, named in the executive's honor.)

And what useful economic activity did Nabors perform to justify this princely tax break? Opening an office in Bermuda and declaring itself foreign.

The loophole will cost the Treasury $1.1 billion in revenues over a decade. This is money that could have gone toward expanded health coverage, restoring the National Parks or whatever.

When will Nancy Pelosi decide that the House Democrats can't afford having Rangel out there as the poster boy both for their party position on taxes and cozy relationship with donors? Will Pelosi stand up to the Congressional Black Caucus and hope that media attention on all the scandalettes concerning Rangel just fades away?

Betsyspage....



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (56754)12/10/2008 3:58:28 PM
From: TideGlider2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224741
 
That simply isn't true kenneth. You don't know criminal law. Did you get that from Wikipedia? A conviction for conspiracy can be had without any overt act.

Neeka, without an overt act there is no conviction for conspiracy.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (56754)12/10/2008 4:13:06 PM
From: jlallen2 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224741
 
Kenneth.....I don't practice criminal law...but wouldn't discussing price for the seat and negotiating terms be an overt act? My understanding is that one candidate offered $500K for the seat....

J.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (56754)12/10/2008 10:35:52 PM
From: Tom Clarke  Respond to of 224741
 
As a lawyer you must be familiar with the term 'mens rea.'