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To: XoFruitCake who wrote (170945)	12/12/2008 2:44:19 PM
From: Think4Yourself	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

Man, I HATE it when I am debating with someone who actually knows an awful lot about what is going on! ;o) You are right. If things work out as you say the Unions will do very well. I would point out that the negotiations were completed before the elections, so the unions took a big risk. If McCain had won that potential advantage wouldn't exist.

To: XoFruitCake who wrote (170945)	12/12/2008 8:18:39 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

They are even taking on the responsibility for their pension legacy costs." Heh heh, sorry John, this one is all for the benefit for the UAW. They get 30-40B from big 3 to manage the healthcare. And the come here is if Obama get the universal health care going, they can pocket some of the money since the cost of healthcare will be much lower. It is head, I don't loss and tail I win big scenario for UAW. I believe they agreed to the provision in 2007. I don't think Obama was president then.