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To: Mike M2 who wrote (171179)	12/14/2008 10:39:26 AM
From: James Hutton	Respond to of 306849

Yeah, I think they started fixing that problem in the mid 80s or so. I had an '83 Accord that started rusting around the gas cap and then around the edge of the rear bumper. It got pretty bad. But I still got 245000 miles out of it.

To: Mike M2 who wrote (171179)	12/14/2008 10:58:07 AM
From: Think4Yourself	Respond to of 306849

The Japanese cars back then had a much more serious problem than just the body rusting out. Their passenger compartments were built from four floor panels spot welded together. If you got into an accident on the model as it aged and rusted, the rusty spot welds would break and your body would become part of the resulting metal sandwich. In other words once the rusting started the passenger compartment had no integrity in a crash. The only reason people think the Japanese had good cars back then is because the people that got in accidents aren't around to talk about it.

To: Mike M2 who wrote (171179)	12/14/2008 11:05:52 AM
From: Aggie	Respond to of 306849

Hi Mike M2, "You won't see many very old Japanese cars on the road because the bodies rotted out" Not in the U.S., but I see lots of old Japanese cars on the road in the third world. There is a huge industry in what they call the "Foreign Used" auto market. Where I am working in the Caribbean, up to a few years ago, it was nearly impossible for the average citizen to buy a new car. Instead they would have to buy a "Foreign Used" model. Why? Because in Japan, it is nearly impossible for the average citizen to retain a car past three years old. The regulatory fees associated with doing this are cost prohibitive, or so I am told. Instead all of these cars are slightly refurbished, bundled up and put on Ro-Ro ships (Roll on, Roll off). These are huge floating parking garages with thousands of cars that make port all over the third world and developing countries to offload their cargo. This is only one of the ways the industry in Japan is indirectly subsidized by their government, quite cleverly if you ask me. I wonder when the UAW is going to cave? Regards to all, Aggie