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To: Lane3 who wrote (98704)	12/15/2008 12:09:07 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541777

You are unable to define specifics of progressives? How can you understand where they are politically or who might be a progressive if you don't know any position they hold? I don't think I'm able to do that. Other than nationalized health care Was that you who argued with me that Teddy Roosevelt wasn't a progressive? It's easy to see his policies after the fact, so can you name two Teddy Roosevelt progressive policies that we are rewarded with today? You think Stem cell research and green energy are centrist ideas? I agree and that is EXACTLY why progressives are not on the far left of the liberal/conservative spectrum. Communism or socialism are on the far left for obvious reasons. Here are several policies or ideas I think of as "progressive"; 1) Advancement in medical biotechnology using the wonder of DNA for diagnostics and therapeutics. Stem Cell research is but a tiny part of this new medical advancement. 2) A more efficient internet based on broadband technology. Not only did this progressive technology help Obama win, but it offers efficency's in business - and fantastic infrastructure possibilities. 3) Personalized medicine; based somewhat by combining the two from above, this still is a fantastic new opportunity for health care advancement. 4) New energy sources. If you really think green energy is a not a progressive idea, go read a few PFP post. Of course this is a progressive policy. Wind and solar and tidal and more efficiencies from transmission and storage of energy is, I believe, as progressive as it gets. Politically it lets us spend at home for manufacturing rather than fight for our oil. It may be centrist - it is surely progressive. 5) War on GW. Or think of it as war on pollution if GW is too hard to grasp. But in any case it is a move away from old dirty energy sources to new cleaner and carbon neutral sources of energy. It means politically working with the rest of the world. 6) Okay, I'll sort of accept the one progressive idea were able to come up with - nationalized health care. The way you titled it though makes it an extreme liberal policy and I think most progressives would rather be open and debate the issue and title it "health care solutions". By labeling it "nationalized health care", you have already lost any hope to succeed getting it. Hillary Care? There's six, there are many others.