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To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (150075)	12/16/2008 2:38:18 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Me: Come clean and admit it is because you resent the lives straight people have so much and which you can't have, so you want to see it destroyed." oooo that touched a sore spot didn't it. I addressed that to you not gays. You said you are married, I suppose you can also be gay but I have no way of knowing that so far. Either way it is irrelevant. You have referred to straight people in the past as having perspectives differing from yours so it seemed to me we had an understood context which has nothing to do with gay or hetero. It has more to do with traditional family values types who view their community associations as like minded. If they have that view of life and you don't, why do you care at all, why are you so compulsively and angrily fighting over the marriage issue if you don't care at all. You care because you resent people living the straight life and that oozes from your posts. What is it about them that bothers you so much that you have to make all these false allegations. I don't dislike gays inspite of your unfounded allegations that I hate homosexuals and btw you don't even know if I'm gay or not. "You think gays resent what straights have and therefore want to destroy it by having it too?" Again I was referring exclusively to YOU, if I'd meant homosexuals, I'd have said so. You have not presented any argument to justify your insistence that heteros shouldn't get exclusive use of the term marriage. Personally, I don't care either way but you do you care very very much, and the discrimination charge is transparently not what's driving that. You've even said it is a meaningless term and any discussion of value that it might have to society was repeatedly dismissed by you. The fact that irks you is that straights do value the institution of marriage and consider it very important in their lives, community, society and to their posterity. You don't give it that value and have stated you would like to see the whole issue of marriage gone from legitimate society. You contradict your self too much to be taken seriously but you obviously do care, your stated reasons for caring just don't work and we both know why...top of this post. "This is so bigoted and hateful, not to mention stupid, i'm almost speechless. What a truly worthless POS you've revealed yourself to be. You are projecting but that's about all you've got left I suppose. Don't dismiss the thought of going speechless to quickly, it would be an improvement. Your allegations and name calling are unfounded. You you further expose the true depths of your hateful anger and resentment each time you spew them.

To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (150075)	12/18/2008 11:48:03 AM
From: one_less	Respond to of 173976

"You think gays resent what straights have and therefore want to destroy it by having it too?" Perhaps that is the single most salient flaw in your argument around the Gay Marriage debate. I do not think that. No rational person thinks that. You reveal that you think Gays would have what Traditional Heterosexual Marriages have if they could be called legally married. Somewhere even in your demented brain, you know that is problematic. It is a simple fact, as I have described traditional heterosexual family values for you that it can never be true that Gays will "have it too" no matter what you choose to label their unions. You refer to that fact as too ugly to look at. But all you've revealed is your fear of and denial of simple common sense. I don't care who is gay or how they or other people form unions. I don't care about any adult unions outside of my sphere. I don't care how the law is termed that recognizes one or all types of unions. I do care about attacks on my life style. So when you attack traditional family values you are attacking me and people I care for. No one here has been attacking gays so now that your facade of projection has been revealed for what it is, time for you to scidattle with your tail between your legs. So long.