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To: i-node who wrote (441354)	12/18/2008 7:24:52 PM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576876

the left base everything on "who you are", just like the communists, censorship, purge the opposition, etc...

To: i-node who wrote (441354)	12/18/2008 7:33:47 PM
From: Don Hurst	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576876

>>" ...Turley ought to know that waterboarding is NOT torture (since there is no severe pain or suffering, mental or physical). "<< Yup, they used it during the Spanish Inquisition to lull the heretics and witches to sleep at night...

To: i-node who wrote (441354)	12/18/2008 8:24:35 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576876

"Turley ought to know that waterboarding is NOT torture (since there is no severe pain or suffering, mental or physical)." en.wikipedia.org "Waterboarding is a form of torture that consists of immobilizing a person on their back with the head inclined downward and pouring water over the face and into the breathing passages.[1][2] Through forced suffocation and inhalation of water, the subject experiences the process of drowning and is made to believe that death is imminent.[3] In contrast to merely submerging the head face-forward, waterboarding almost immediately elicits the gag reflex.[4] Although waterboarding does not always cause lasting physical damage, it carries the risks of extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to the lungs, brain damage caused by oxygen deprivation, physical injuries (including broken bones) due to struggling against restraints, psychological injury, and, ultimately, death, which may be caused by one of the many possible conditions -- not only drowning -- that are triggered by this behavior.[5] The physical effects of waterboarding can come on even months after the event, and the psychological effects on the victims can last for years.[6]" ..."Waterboarding is considered to be torture by a wide range of authorities, including legal experts,[5][8][30] politicians, war veterans,[9][10] intelligence officials,[31] military judges,[12] and human rights organizations.[13][14] David Miliband, the United Kingdom Foreign Secretary described it as torture on July 19, 2008, and stated "the UK unreservedly condemns the use of torture."[32] Arguments have been put forward that it might not be torture in all cases, or that they are uncertain.[33][34][35][36] The U.S. State Department has recognized that other techniques that involve submersion of the head of the subject during interrogation would qualify as torture.[37] The United Nations' Report of the Committee Against Torture: Thirty-fifth Session of November 2006, stated that state parties should rescind any interrogation techniques, such as waterboarding, that constitutes torture or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment.[38]" The only time it's NOT torture is when you redefine the word torture, as Bush does when he says the US does not torture.