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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: neolib who wrote (23513)12/22/2008 9:15:51 PM
From: Maurice Winn2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36917
 
Yes, it's true Neo that we have flipped CO2 through the roof in an impressive effort. More impressive still because it was done by relatively few people. Most people in India, China, Africa and the seething swarms of Islamic Jihad have barely helped though China is making a good effort in recent decades.

It's another great and magnanimous achievement of the USA more than anywhere including all of western Europe. Singlehandedly, they have improved crop yields with CO2 enrichment [don't forget the great genetic improvements of crops either]. African and Indian farmers get free CO2 in a huge aid effort. It's cunning that the aid is transported for no charge by the wind, bypassing the usual extortionist local yokel authorities.

But it's still not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. Not yet anyway. At 450ppm we could review the situation. There should be something show up in actual effects by then if CO2 really is a climate problem.

There is also the question of whether CO2 even at 1000 ppm does anything much. Water is the biggie. Water in the form of clouds, ice/snow, oceans, and hiding in plants.

The interglacial has been and gone and we are on the downhill slope [which is nearly vertical - see your own graphs]. If we are very lucky, CO2 might delay that phase shift for a while. I doubt it. Deserts, clouds, oceans, ice, plant cover are simply too big to worry about a bit of CO2 in ppm quantities.

Mqurice