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To: shortsinthesand who wrote (494)12/23/2008 6:50:14 AM
From: rrufff1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 736
 
It's not my PM, to which I'm sure, you will admit. Do you have a post or PM of mine where you claim that I brutally attacked you? Have you ever responded favorably to similar attacks or posters whose style is to post is such fashion, merely because you agreed with the attacking poster? Perhaps it's time to take a more objective view?

Otherwise, I can't really comment without knowing all the facts, but, in general, having been the target of coward lying personal attacks and impotent threats, I'm primarily disappointed because I always felt that these boards would provide a method by which regular shareholders could level the playing field against corporate managements, MM's, hedge funds, and others who try to take our money over the years.

Instead, they have generated into "ego" trips that discourage honest and open discussion.

If someone posts bullishly, he is often claimed to be "pumping," while someone who exposes a scam is labelled a "basher." Those accused then make the matter worse by posting the same stuff over and over, to the point that it becomes useless "spam." Then the bulls feel they have to respond with 100's of posts saying nothing other than the stock is going up tomorrow or sooner. The negative posters feel they have to spam with posts laughing at others who may be losing money and claiming generically that it is a "scam, going bankrupt, worthless," etc. Some post bullisly about stocks that are just as risky as their own target bashes. Others change aliasses and post as bulls, changing their strategies with their positions.

We've seen the history of the Elgindy posters, going from board to board with personal attacks on investors who merely opined positively, and who have recently been exposed. Hedge funds have been exposed as providing misinformation fodder to feed their own scams. Defending these scams, while deriding penny scams, does not make someone a sleuth.

I've never been paid to post, would vote to prohibit paid promotion and dumping of shares, but also find the hypocrisy of those who post spam negatively over and over similarly abhorrent. It typically accomplishes nothing other than feeding the egos of some very self-admittedly troubled individuals. Typically posters don't realize that it is quality of posting, as opposed to quantity, that makes a difference. Taking out personal frustrations, by hiding behind a keyboard and lying about others, even if repeated over and over, does not create a truth, other than in the mind of the psychotic.

Perhaps all of us can use the holy season to look inside and perhaps promise ourselves to post more usefully and less personally.

Take care.



To: shortsinthesand who wrote (494)12/23/2008 7:26:29 AM
From: rrufff  Respond to of 736
 
shorts - along the lines of discussion, specifically with respect to those who stalk others and attack, expose personal information and threaten, this is a very interesting trend:

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Re: 12/17/08 - St Louis Post-Dispatch: New cyber-bullying law is being used in St. Louis area

New cyber-bullying law is being used in St. Louis area
By Joel Currier
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
12/17/2008

Her enemies nicknamed her "Pork and Beans."

Eggs and thumbtacks were thrown at her car in August, police say. A week later, the 16-year-old St. Peters girl found a can of beans dumped on the car's roof.

Text messages — spurred by jealousy over a boy — soon filled the girl's cell phone. Then came vulgar voice mails: one caller even threatening rape.

As a result, prosecutors used a new cyber harassment law to charge a 21-year-old St. Charles woman.

Nicole A. Williams is charged with misdemeanor harassment. She is accused of sending harassing text messages to the girl and letting friends use her cell phone to leave threatening voice messages.

Her case is one of at least seven involving adults in the St. Louis area filed since Missouri's new cyber-bullying law took effect Aug. 28. Williams' is the first harassment case involving text messaging filed in St. Charles County under the new law.

Eighteen states now have laws targeting Internet harassment and cyber-stalking, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. In the fallout of the cyber-bullying case of Dardenne Prairie teenager Megan Meier, legal experts say the long-term impact of such laws is just beginning to take shape.

Illinois lawmakers passed a similar law this year, but it doesn't take effect until Jan. 1. The law includes prohibiting a website with third-party access that contains "harassing statements made for the purpose of alarming, tormenting or terrorizing a specific person."

Missouri's updated harassment law covers threats or communication that causes emotional distress, including electronic messaging on computers, text messaging and e-mail. Charges can be filed as misdemeanors or felonies.

Williams' lawyer, Michael Kielty, said she shouldn't be punished for what others may have said or written using her cell phone. Missouri's cyber-bullying law, Kielty says, is poorly defined and was passed hastily in response to the case of Meier, 13, who hanged herself in October 2006 after receiving hurtful messages over the social networking website MySpace.com.

"It's a knee-jerk reaction to a high-profile case that was blown out of proportion," Kielty said.

Last month, a Los Angeles jury found Lori Drew, 49, of O'Fallon, Mo., guilty of three misdemeanor counts of accessing a computer without authorization for her role in the creation of a fake MySpace account. Drew faces up to three years in prison and a $300,000 fine. Prosecutors in California, where MySpace is headquartered, charged Drew under the Computer Use and Fraud Act, which has typically been used in computer hacking cases. St. Louis area authorities said there were no applicable laws at the time to charge her.

Some experts say that even though cyber-bullying laws establish a framework for punishing those who use the Internet to harass others, those laws probably do little to deter such behavior.

Others say it will take a combination of the law, parental involvement and raising awareness to curb cyber-bullying.

Parry Aftab, a lawyer and executive director of WiredSafety.org, which Megan's mother, Tina Meier, has joined to raise awareness of cyber-bullying, says Drew's conviction will have a dramatic effect on cyber-stalking cases nationwide.

"Because of Megan's case, people are paying attention," Aftab said. "The laws will make a difference once people understand that there are laws and once prosecutors start using them. We need to teach (people) that what you do online matters as much as what you do in real life, because the Internet is real life now."

St. Charles County Prosecutor Jack Banas said he is glad authorities now have the ability to prosecute. But he questioned the law's effectiveness in preventing harassment.

"It's too early to tell if it's going to affect how people treat each other," Banas said. "I don't know if it has any effect — like any other statute — for those who don't think they're going to get caught."

A recent check of St. Louis-area courts showed prosecutors have filed two cases in St. Louis and one each in Franklin, Jefferson, Lincoln and St. Louis counties alleging harassment or threats by adults via cell phone text messaging and e-mail. The only other local cases filed have been in Jefferson County juvenile court.

In St. Louis, two men have been charged in separate cases in November of sending numerous text messages to their ex-girlfriends. In St. Louis County, a Ballwin man protesting a proposed resort was accused in September of sending a threatening e-mail to Wildwood City Hall. In Franklin County, a Union woman, 28, was accused in September of sending harassing text messages to her ex-husband's girlfriend. The same month, in Lincoln County, authorities say a 19-year-old Belleville man sent at least 17 text messages to his mother's husband, who lives in Troy, Mo. And in Jefferson County, prosecutors in October charged a 17-year-old from Cedar Hill with writing death threats in text messages to a classmate stemming from a dispute over a girl.

Justin Patchin, a criminologist at the University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire and co-author of "Bullying Beyond the Schoolyard," is skeptical that such laws will be upheld in courts. He said the laws fail to deter such behavior by young people because most don't understand what cyber-bullying is. However, Patchin said, the laws may be more effective in protecting children targeted by adults.

"The vast majority of these cases can and should be dealt with informally in schools with parents," Patchin said. "Once we start criminalizing minor forms of bullying and cyber-bullying, that's really going to draw too many kids into the criminal justice system."

The federal case against Drew has brought national attention to cyber-bullying, spurring the creation of local and state laws that may encourage parents to better educate their children about the dangers, said Thomas Holt, a criminologist with the University of North Carolina-Charlotte. But youngsters will continue to hurt each other online without thinking about the consequences.

"It's very hard to say that any 14-year-old with a cell phone who can text is going to think about a cyber-bullying law when they're communicating with peers," he said.

jcurrier@post-dispatch.com | 636-255-7210

stltoday.com



To: shortsinthesand who wrote (494)12/23/2008 2:40:34 PM
From: im a survivor1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 736
 
Gee, can anybody do like you and post 25 TOS violations in a post? Can we all do as you and put anything we want in writing and then claim that it was received from somebody else via PM?I have a good imagination.....I can always make up stuff much better then your drivel......Heck, I have actual E-Mails from you, that can be verified as being real, unlike PM's on SI......You mean you don't remember these e-mails??
They are quite real and can be proven as such....I'd LOVE to see you prove that drivel was real......Those are some pretty harsh words.....I recommend you take legal action against whoever sent you that...Oh, thats right, it would have to be true and word for word for you to accomplish that.....No excuses shorty......You can post anything you want and claim you received it from somebody, but being the habitual liar you are, your claims dont amount to much, so no excuses please....just take legal action and prove it...your hollow words are just that......hollow and without meaning or truth....I am looking at 2 pm's I sent you as well as several e-mails we exchanged and can only laugh at you......C;mon shorty..we all know you are talking about me...prove it and have your lawyer contact me or take legal action.....I'll happily oblige you......and who knows, some of your post below might happen....You game?

<<Message #494 from sandintheshorts at 12/23/2008 3:20:49 AM

hi rrufff ... what is your thoughts on people that send personal messages like this one? would you consider this type of message a personal threat or brutal attack? We will leave the names out to protect the innocent! lol

The best part of PM's is they leave a great record and foot print don't you think?

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LMAO loserboy.....

Enjoy your stay in jail.....

But I suggest getting ready to be behind real bars, as your fate has been sealed!!

LEGAL ACTION HAS COMMENCED!!!

And BOY do you have one HUGE hole dug for yourself.

You are truly one of the most NAIVE IDIOTS I have EVER come accross and you WILL be held accountable for your actions.

To think anything else shows just how naive and stupid you truly are...

Can you understand these very simple words : LEGAL ACTION HAS COMMENCED.

You CANNOT ESCAPE.

ENJOY THE BED YOU MADE FOR YOURSELF!!!

And tell your buddy the slimeball GNAT that his days are numbered as well....not to mention a few others.....But take this to the bank......YOU WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE and your illgal activity has been pretty severe so I would plan on very hefty lawyer fee's, get your bankruptcy lawyer ready as well, and plan on a nice punishment to fit the crime(s). IF you have any family, get your affairs in order and inform them of what lies ahead. And once again...tell your slimeball gnatty buddy that I will bury him so far down he'll have to look up to see hell.

You are one clueless IDIOT, thats for sure and have no idea just how many people and other 'entities' are going to ensure you stay buried for a long, long time........

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