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To: rich evans who wrote (91988)	12/24/2008 2:38:30 PM
From: Sweet Ol	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

An we might not only allow the auto companies to survive but also hopefully reform their ways and the union reform its ways. Rich Boy, talk about an overly optimistic hope! The problem with your logic is that if we can't let them go BK when times are bad, they won't do anything different when times are good. That's what bad times are for - to weed out the inequities and the incompetents and restructure and strengthen the survivors. It will never happen if it does not happen now. Why would the unions give up anything if they know the government will protect them? Why would the management do anything different? It is just throwing good money after bad. As the old song said, "When will they ever learn?" Merry Christmas! JRH

To: rich evans who wrote (91988)	12/24/2008 5:53:15 PM
From: benwood	1 Recommendation Respond to of 116555

Just for the record, I'm not anti-union at all. Unions brought in safety and worker's rights, first and foremost. But they can and have killed the goose in as the sense of entitlement grows beyond the capacity of the industry to remain profitable. I agree that the auto situation is hardly black and white. I personally don't profess to know any sort of answer to the problem, except that in the long run, they have to be more efficient and off welfare because we can't survive as a nation by being taxed to pay ourselves more money.