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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (57108)12/26/2008 10:03:10 AM
From: FJB2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224755
 
He will lose two wars and turn a recession into a depression.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (57108)12/26/2008 12:02:40 PM
From: lorne3 Recommendations  Respond to of 224755
 
ken...."Barack Obama will inherit two wars and the worst economic conditions in three generations when he takes the oath of office on Jan. 20.'....

Kind of makes a person wonder if the Republicans planned it that way.

So what it amounts to is barrack hussein obama fights on against radical islam and it's spread throughout the world...or accept defeat as he has said he would do.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (57108)12/26/2008 1:04:59 PM
From: lorne4 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224755
 
Ken...I got laugh out of this statement...Don't let facts interfere with party politics...says it all huh ken?

...."I had the privilege of being fired by Al Gore, since I refused to go along with his alarmism," Happer told Senate leaders yesterday.
Happer had stated of Gore shortly after his firing in 1993, "I was told that science was not going to intrude on policy.
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Global warming dissenters dash scientific 'consensus'
Physicist fired by Gore adds name to Senate list of 650 anti-alarmists
: December 23, 2008
By Drew Zahn
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
worldnetdaily.com

U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee minority report

The Republican minority of the Senate's Environment and Public Works Committee released a report with a growing list of over 650 international experts who soundly debunk the claim that there exists a "consensus" in science that human activity is causing a global warming.

The introduction to the 231-page Senate minority report states, "The chorus of skeptical scientific voices grew louder in 2008 as a steady stream of peer-reviewed studies, analyses, real world data and inconvenient developments challenged the U.N.'s and former Vice President Al Gore's claims that the 'science is settled.'"

The report includes links to dozens of news reports, statements and studies, and concludes, "Developments further secured 2008 as the year the 'consensus' collapsed."

The majority of the 231 pages, however, is composed of statements from the 650 scientists, meteorologists and experts who remain skeptical that carbon dioxide – or any other product of human activity – is endangering the earth through generating global warming.

Yesterday, a prominent Princeton physicist and former top government scientist – who says he was fired by Al Gore for resisting the vice president's alarmist agenda – asked to be added to the list of global warming dissenters.

(Story continues below)



Dr. William Happer

"I am convinced that the current alarm over carbon dioxide is mistaken," said William Happer, who began serving as the director of the U.S. Department of Energy's Office of Energy under the first President Bush in July of 1991. "Fears about man-made global warming are unwarranted and are not based on good science."

But when Happer testified before Congress under the Clinton administration in 1993, saying, "I think that there probably has been some exaggeration of the dangers of ozone and global climate change," he lost his government position.

"I had the privilege of being fired by Al Gore, since I refused to go along with his alarmism," Happer told Senate leaders yesterday.

Happer had stated of Gore shortly after his firing in 1993, "I was told that science was not going to intrude on policy."

The Senate minority's report includes testimony from several scientists who also claim that sound science is being buried when it conflicts with the global warming political agenda.

For example, the report quotes Ivar Giaever, Nobel Prize winner: "I am a skeptic. … Global warming has become a new religion."

"Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense," says environmental scientist Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, "The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning."

The minority report also quotes several news outlets, however, who contend global warming skeptics are few and untrustworthy.

"The scientific debate is over," said CNN's Miles O'Brien, in 2007. "We're done."

O'Brien, the Senate report also notes, said in 2006 that scientific skeptics of man-made catastrophic global warming "are bought and paid for by the fossil fuel industry, usually."

Andrew Dessler of the eco-publication Grist Magazine is quoted by the report as stating, "While some people claim there are lots of skeptical climate scientists out there, if you actually try to find one, you keep turning up the same two dozen or so. These skeptics are endlessly recycled by the denial machine, so someone not paying close attention might think there are lots of them out there – but that's not the case."

The ranking minority member of the Senate's Environment and Public Works Committee, Sen. Tom Inhofe, R-Okla., however, points to the growing list of scientists his office has accumulated.

"The endless claims of a 'consensus' about man-made global warming," Inhofe said in announcing the minority report, "grow less and less credible every day."

Probably in agreement with Inhofe's statement would be the more than 31,000 scientists, including more than 9,000 Ph.D.s, who have signed a massive separate petition project that challenges the belief in global warming.

Art Robinson, a research professor of chemistry and co-founder of the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, said the Petition Project's signers simply state their agreement with the statement:

"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."
The Petition Project's website includes both a list of scientists by name as well as a list of scientists by state.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (57108)12/27/2008 7:55:23 PM
From: Bearcatbob5 Recommendations  Respond to of 224755
 
"Barack Obama will inherit two wars and the worst economic conditions in three generations when he takes the oath of office on Jan. 20. "

Bush also inherited a recession. His approach was tax cuts and deficits about which the left howled. Obama's approach appears to be spending and deficits about which the left says is simply the price of doing business. It will be interesting to see how the results of the two different play out.

Bob



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (57108)12/27/2008 8:45:35 PM
From: Justin C  Respond to of 224755
 
Has it already been three generations since Ronald Reagan took office following Jimmy Carter's term in office? My, how time flies.

Barack Obama will inherit two wars and the worst economic conditions in three generations when he takes the oath of office on Jan. 20.