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To: bentway who wrote (443221)	12/29/2008 8:38:07 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 1572209

Detroit is a Muslim town, are you starting to see the big picture ?

To: bentway who wrote (443221)	12/30/2008 3:20:54 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572209

A poll was done in late 2007 asking the Palestinians what they thought of the peace treaty then under consideration........down below are some of the results: "Right now, public opinion in both Israel and Palestine favors a two-state solution by wide margins. Of course, the devil is in the details, and right now there are no terms for a two-state solution to which a majority of both sides can agree. This conflict of public opinion is the major reason why there is no peace agreement right now, not a failure of negotiation tactics on either side. For example, consider a late 2007 poll of 1,200 Palestinian adults on what peace terms they would accept, showing majority opposition to every current proposal offered by Israel. Palestinian public opinion is in opposition to most of the ideas routinely discussed as part of the path to peace: East Jerusalem: Living quarters inhabited by Arabs in East Jerusalem should be put under the Palestinian jurisdiction, the Jewish quarters to be annexed to Israel. Would you support or oppose this?: Support 41%--53% Oppose Jordan Valley: The Israeli settlements in Jordan Valley would be dismantled, but the Israeli army would remain in the Jordan Valley area for the period of five years, after which- should calm reigns over the said region during this period- the Israeli forces would be replaced by international forces. Would you support or oppose this? Support 31%--59% Oppose Right of Return: Presuming that the Palestinian State would take up the Palestinian refugees. Israel, with other countries, would establish an international fund for the compensation of those refugees, who want to return under the Palestinian jurisdiction and can't return to their original homeland in Israel. Would you support or oppose such a settlement of the Palestinian refugees problem? Support 24%--68% Oppose Land Swap: Israel would keep 4% of the West Bank and Gaza Strip area, which contains 80% of the Israeli settlements. As an exchange for that, Israel would offer the Palestinians 2% of its land adjacent to Gaza Strip. Would you support or oppose this deal? Support 21%--72% Oppose Old City of Jerusalem: Upon dividing the Old City of Jerusalem between Israel and the Palestinians, Israel would keep the "Wailing Wall" (Western Wall), the Jewish and the Armenian quarters. A special arrangement would be made for the area of the Temple Mount (area of Al-Aqsa Mosque). Would you support or oppose this? Support 19%--73% Oppose Given that Palestinian public opinion is opposed to peace agreements that include these provisions, even if a peace treaty was signed then either the existing Palestinian government would be dumped in the next round of elections in favor of a government that would oppose the treaty, or anti-democratic measures would have to be taken in the West Bank and Gaza Strip by the Palestinian Authority in order to keep the pro=peace government in power. Either path makes any peace treaty a moot point, as it would lead to continued, populist armed resistance and, thus, no peace. This isn't going to end until there is an agreement that the majority of the populations on both sides accept. Right now, no such agreement exists, even hypothetically. Until public opinion changes, I don't expect the political and military conditions in the region will improve much, either. Bombing doesn't help, but there wouldn't be a solution for a long time, even if the attacks stopped tomorrow.