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To: d[-_-]b who wrote (443342)12/30/2008 4:37:51 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575112
 
Eric, > The Jews have as much historical claim to this land as the Palestinians.

And probably more than the white man has over the New World here.

I'm sure Ted, Chris, and Harry would gladly "move back to Europe" if Native Americans started resorting to terrorist tactics.

Especially Ted, who should be apologizing to Natives for the Puget Sound War:

en.wikipedia.org

You and I, of course, could simply move to Korea. ;-)

Tenchusatsu



To: d[-_-]b who wrote (443342)12/30/2008 5:04:03 PM
From: i-node  Respond to of 1575112
 
>> The Jews have as much historical claim to this land as the Palestinians.

Absolutely. More, in fact. A very well-reasoned case can be made under International law that the Jews own Gaza pursuant to the concept of adverse possession.



To: d[-_-]b who wrote (443342)12/30/2008 5:10:51 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575112
 
"There is no other place on earth either party can be relocated."

Why do you say that? The Zionists considered Uganda and Argentina to establish the "Jewish Homeland" in the early 1900's. The religious factions won the argument. What a mistake.

en.wikipedia.org

"The Uganda [ Current Uasin Gishu District, Eldoret, Kenya] proposal

In 1903, the British Colonial Secretary, Joseph Chamberlain, suggested the British Uganda Program, land for a Jewish state in "Uganda" (in today's Uasin Gishu District, Eldoret, Kenya). Herzl initially rejected the idea, preferring Palestine, but after the April 1903 Kishinev pogrom, Herzl introduced a controversial proposal to the Sixth Zionist Congress to investigate the offer as a temporary measure for Russian Jews in danger. Despite its emergency and temporary nature, the proposal proved very divisive, and widespread opposition to the plan was fueled by a walkout led by the Russian Jewish delegation to the Congress. Nevertheless, a committee was established to investigate the possibility, which was eventually dismissed in the Seventh Zionist Congress in 1905. After that, Palestine became the sole focus of Zionist aspirations."

"...Support for other homelands

Before 1917, some Zionist leaders seriously considered proposals for Jewish homelands in places other than Palestine. Herzl's Der Judenstaat argued for a Jewish state in either Palestine, "our ever-memorable historic home", or Argentina, "one of the most fertile countries in the world." When the Zionist Movement rejected the Uganda Proposal, the Jewish Territorialist Organization (ITO) led by Israel Zangwill split off from the main Zionist movement. The territorialists attempted to establish a Jewish homeland wherever possible, but went into decline after 1917 and the ITO was dissolved in 1925."

You don't really know much of the actual history, do you Eric? You seem to buy the argument of the West Bank settlers, that they actually have a "land grant from God".