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Politics : The Obama - Clinton Disaster -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (4104)12/30/2008 6:28:31 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 103300
 
If you actually commit the underlying crime you can be charged with the crime, and with the conspiracy to commit it (assuming you did conspire).

If you conspire to commit the crime but don't go through with it, if you conspire, and if you take any action to further the conspiracy, than you can be charged with conspiracy.

Whether or not what Blago did is enough to count as action further the conspiracy is the relevant question in terms of his possible conviction.



To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (4104)12/30/2008 6:33:54 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 103300
 
LOL!

(So... what do you actually *expect* his high-priced legal mouthpiece would say? If he doesn't say that he ain't earning his fees! <GGG>)



To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (4104)12/30/2008 9:55:32 PM
From: jlallen  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 103300
 
The essence of a conspiracy offense is the making of the agreement itself (followed by the commission of any overt act), it is not necessary for the Government to prove that the conspirators actually succeeded in accomplishing their unlawful plan.

What the evidence in the case must show beyond a reasonable doubt is:

First: That two or more persons, in some way or manner, came to a mutual understanding to try to accomplish a common and unlawful plan, as charged in the indictment;

Second: That the person willfully became a member of such conspiracy;

Third: That one of the conspirators during the existence of the conspiracy knowingly committed at least one of the methods (or 'overt acts') described in the indictment; and

Fourth: That such 'overt act' was knowingly committed at or about the time alleged in an effort to carry out or accomplish some object of the conspiracy.

An 'overt act' is any transaction or event, even one which may be entirely innocent when considered alone, but which is knowingly committed by a conspirator in an effort to accomplish some object of the conspiracy.

A person may become a member of a conspiracy without knowing all of the details of the unlawful scheme, and without knowing who all of the other members are. So, if a person has an understanding of the unlawful nature of a plan and knowingly and willfully joins in that plan on one occasion, that is sufficient to convict him for conspiracy even though he did not participate before, and even though he played only a minor part.

lectlaw.com



To: GROUND ZERO™ who wrote (4104)12/31/2008 12:11:00 AM
From: PROLIFE1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 103300
 
he was only talking

and ....

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