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To: Taro who wrote (444369)1/3/2009 3:42:05 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1588521
 
Israeli ground forces cross border into Gaza

guardian.co.uk



To: Taro who wrote (444369)1/3/2009 4:40:10 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1588521
 
What you call Apartheid Wall is a wall that we absolutely need for our safety. You Palestinians have a nerve - you are murdering our women and children by sending suicide bombers and then demanding that we do not erect a wall whose sole purpose is to stop the brainwashed bloodthirsty fanatics wearing bomb belts to enter our territory! Stop suicide bombings and we would never need this ugly but life-saving wall.

When was the last suicide bombing?

That the Arab countries have kept the refugee camps and let them drown in poverty is a fact you cannot dispute. Every a single refugee camp - dating back to 1948! - located on the territories of Arab countries continues to exist and has only swollen in population. This is the real Arab Apartheid.

And Israel has nothing to do with it. LOL.

You are saying that people of Gaza will not easily forget the current bombings. You also have a nerve to demand that we do not attack Gaza - from which we withdrew 3 years ago - after Hamas shoot rockets at us for 6 months during which we were grinding our teeth and absorbing the fire trying to find a non-bloody solution - asking Egypt to pressure Hamas while acting as a mediator. No wonder Egyptians blamed Hamas for the Israeli attack when their efforts proved futile.

Awww.....poor things. Sitting in those bomb shelters must be real boring. Not as exciting as the Gazans getting their legs and brains blown up.

We TRIED for a very long time to stop the conflict and the violence by making peace with the Palestinians. Prime Minister Rabin - who fell victim of a Jewish extremist murderer for this - shook the hand of lifelong terrorist Arafat whom Rabin detested and fought all his life, and signed the Oslo agreement. Israelis were euphoric - so strong was our desire for peace with Palestinians. What did we get in return? Treachery, intifada and suicide bombings.

Tried? lol. Tried means everything must be on Israel's terms and the Arabs must relinquish any legitimate claims they might have against Israel.

No my friend, we Israelis are through caring what you will or will nor forget. You hate Israel too much for any of our actions to make any difference, and you have proven this time and again. The result is that Israelis who deeply symphathized with you, who were once quite numerous, are now few and far between. Thanks to your actions a huge majority of Israelis are now united in not being impressed by Palestinian whining and appeals and hand waving because their other hand is pressing the deadly rocket launch button at the same time, and this rocket - or suicide bomber’s belt - is ALWAYS aimed at innocent Israeli civilians.

Ask them how they will feel when we cut off the $6 billion in aid we send them each year? Is their economy independent now? Can it survive as a war economy without that aid?

So we choose to defend our civilian population forcefully, no matter what you say and what you will or will not forget. Only the actions matter. We will continue destroying Hamas terrorists and their infrastructure until they stop firing rockets. After they stop, we can talk business.

On at least one thing you and I are in agreement - Western democracy will never work for Arabs and Moslems (although they cunningly appeal to the Western values in their propaganda, trying to dupe the Western people into supporting the “victims”).


What does the AIPAC propaganda machine appeal to?

I was once a student in a European university and an Arab student there told me “You Israelis do not understand the basic law of the Middle East: Kiss the Arm that You Cannot Break”. He was mistaken: it’s the Americans who do not understand this - see their stupid attempt do instill democracy in Iraq and their pressure on Israel that resulted in democratic elections in Gaza that in turn brought the Hamas terrorists to power. We Israelis, one the other hand, have been here long enough. We do understand the laws of the Middle East.

Yes, and they've lost their souls in the process.....they must be very proud.

Make no mistake - that we continue to act according to Western values - e.g. not targeting civilians, allowing Red Cross to visit Palestinian prisoners when Hamas keep our prisoner in some underground dungeon for years without any contact with outside world, etc. - is not a sign of weakness or misunderstanding of your laws of conduct. It is our choice, our moral fibre and the reason why we are stronger than you.

DaNile is a river in Egypt.