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To: Oblomov who wrote (175065)	1/5/2009 11:23:19 AM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

That's exactly why I think HFH would do much better getting some high-powered volunteer architects to design modular units that groups of office dweebs could construct and other groups of office dweebs could snap together. Then, they could give the designs to the world.

To: Oblomov who wrote (175065)	1/5/2009 8:52:36 PM
From: coug	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

re: >>Look at the high-rise federal housing projects of the 50s and 60s, such as Pruitt-Igoe, Stateway Gardens, Robert Taylor Homes, and Cabrini Green. All were designed and built with the loftiest of intentions: A clean, well-lighted place to live, just like the banlieuex Parisiennes.<<< Keywords bolded.. I was talking about PRIVATE charity, not a gubermint boondoggle so please don't use that as an example to try to muddle the issue..... I can't understand why you guys denigrate HFH because that's PRIVATE.. Oh yes, I do, it is because Carter is so closely aligned with it.. If Bush could pound a nail, you would be all rah rah..<ng> re: >>As for Habitat for Humanity houses, one cannot fault the noblesse oblige among the office workers who show up for such projects. But social utility would probably be maximized if, instead of making an in-kind donation of employee time, the sponsor company were to pay for an experienced, licensed contractor to build the project. At least there would be someone to sue if the house fell apart. See below.. Besides, there is an intrinsic value when fellow human beings, regular people show up and want to help their fellow human being.. re:>>noblesse oblige<< Just give me a freakin break and see above.. Maybe you and MOST here don't understand that.. But it's true.. It's a basic truth of living. I only hope people here have hands on helping others.. >>Similarly, consider the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, during which numerous weekend warriors decided to drive to NO to help out, only to be turned away. The altruistic intentions did not help. The money used for travel would have been far more useful as funds for increased rescue operations by trained personnel.<< So for Katrina victims, we should have used more "Brownie" type trailers provided by the gubermint built by corporations, by professionals BUT are too toxic to live in..??? :( What DO you think of that? Oh I know.. But you don't have to answer..