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To: SilentZ who wrote (445165)	1/5/2009 10:19:47 PM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1577031

>> Very well said... if I were to post that among my circles I'd be in deep shit. It ought to tell you something about how confused you are on the subject. Antisemitism amongst Jews is unbecoming. No wonder they'd be pissed.

To: SilentZ who wrote (445165)	1/6/2009 6:38:32 AM
From: Taro	Respond to of 1577031

Deal with this, source at the bottom Taro "January 1st, 2009 at 14:11 pm Zeev: To Zeinab Salem: You wrote: “you guys [=Jews] have the money ..so leave out of OUR HOME and buy a home not occupy it!!”. This means you suggest that you only agree to end bloodshed when we Israelis all leave our country - i.e. commit collective suicide as a nation. So I say again: don’t count on it, we will NEVER leave our homeland. You are fooling yourself and causing blood to flow because of this belief of yours. You better stop this, as well as “you guys have the money” and “some of my best freinds ar jewishsong. This is an ages long anti-Semitic tune for ill-informed brainwashed peasants and students of radical Islamic medresses that does not become an “MA student”. What you call Apartheid Wall is a wall that we absolutely need for our safety. You Palestinians have a nerve - you are murdering our women and children by sending suicide bombers and then demanding that we do not erect a wall whose sole purpose is to stop the brainwashed bloodthirsty fanatics wearing bomb belts to enter our territory! Stop suicide bombings and we would never need this ugly but life-saving wall. That the Arab countries have kept the refugee camps and let them drown in poverty is a fact you cannot dispute. Every a single refugee camp - dating back to 1948! - located on the territories of Arab countries continues to exist and has only swollen in population. This is the real Arab Apartheid. You are saying that people of Gaza will not easily forget the current bombings. You also have a nerve to demand that we do not attack Gaza - from which we withdrew 3 years ago - after Hamas shoot rockets at us for 6 months during which we were grinding our teeth and absorbing the fire trying to find a non-bloody solution - asking Egypt to pressure Hamas while acting as a mediator. No wonder Egyptians blamed Hamas for the Israeli attack when their efforts proved futile. We TRIED for a very long time to stop the conflict and the violence by making peace with the Palestinians. Prime Minister Rabin - who fell victim of a Jewish extremist murderer for this - shook the hand of lifelong terrorist Arafat whom Rabin detested and fought all his life, and signed the Oslo agreement. Israelis were euphoric - so strong was our desire for peace with Palestinians. What did we get in return? Treachery, intifada and suicide bombings. No my friend, we Israelis are through caring what you will or will nor forget. You hate Israel too much for any of our actions to make any difference, and you have proven this time and again. The result is that Israelis like Anat - who left a post in this blog - who were once quite numerous, are now few and far between. Thanks to your actions a huge majority of Israelis are now united in not being impressed by Palestinian whining and appeals and hand waving because their other hand is pressing the deadly rocket launch button at the same time, and this rocket - or suicide bomber’s belt - is ALWAYS aimed at innocent Israeli civilians. So we choose to defend our civilian population forcefully, no matter what you say and what you will or will not forget. Only the actions matter. We will continue destroying Hamas terrorists and their infrastructure until they stop firing rockets. After they stop, we can talk business. On at least one thing you and I ar in agreement - Western democracy will never work for Arabs and Moslems (although they cunningly appeal to the Western values in their propaganda, trying to dupe the Western people into supporting the “victims”). I was once a student in a European university and an Arab student there told me “You Israelis do not udnerstand the basic law of the Middle East: Kiss the Arm that You Cannot Break”. He was mistaken: it’s the Americans who do not understand this - see their stupid attempt do instill democracy in Iraq and their pressure on Israel that resulted in democratic elections in Gaza that in turn brought the Hamas terroristss to power. We Israelis, one the other hand, have been here long enough. We do understand the laws of the Middle East. Make no mistake - that we continue to act according to Western values - e.g. not targeting civilians, allowing Red Cross to visit Palestinian prisoners when Hamas keep our prisoner in some underground dungeon for years without any contact with outside world, etc. - is not a sign of weakness or misunderstanding of your laws of conduct. It is our choice, our moral fibre and the reason why we are stronger than you. You will forever loose the fight with Israel BECAUSE we are a Western democracy AND know how to speak the only language that you understand. So I tell you in plain Middle East speak: stop firing the rockets. Stop killing our civilians. I guarantee you that this time we will NOT stop our attack until you stop firing the rockets, and will destroy Gaza entirely if needed. I also guarantee you that we will stop after you stop firing the rockets, and that despite everythng we will continue to allow 100 tons of humanitarian aid into Gaza EVERY DAY as we did in the 6 days that passed. I think the message is clear, truthful and simple enough for you to comprehend, despite our cultural differences. Respectfully, Zeev" globalvoicesonline.org