To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (151531 ) 1/9/2009 5:17:53 PM From: one_less Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976 You asked for evidence, but you probably have preconceived notions as to what you will accept. For example: you might say an apple falling from a tree is evidence of something, but what it is evidence of lies in the context of the observation and the experience. Evidence is normally considered to be that which can be observed, and taken at face value or upon confirmation established as fact. Part of the observation requires your involvement as an observer who can process the experience and determine its meaningfulness and relevance to other aspects of existence and circumstance, to pass judgment upon the validity of the evidence, supported by a willingness not to restrict evidence by preconceived notions. A willingness to consider rather than exclude various perspectives is the path for a seeker of knowledge, opposition to such consideration is the path of a closed minded zealot. An apple falling from a tree has a context in circumstance and is interpretive according to existence in general. It fell because apples have a nature which predicts the falling under ripe conditions and circumstances. It provides evidence of other things, like gravity. It also suggests it might be at the most palatable stage of its life cycle. An apple falling from a tree might bring evidence that there is something more to life than you'd previously supposed, etc. Jefferson spoke to the conscience of humanity when he declared, “We hold these truths to be self evident …”. The consciousness of human beings is informed by an awareness of their human nature and the connection it has to all things. When that realm is open, a room of meaning qualified by principle and purposefulness is found in the consciousness of us all. When it is closed, a universe of evidence is unavailable. The evidence is there. Part of the proofing process lies in your willingness to open the door, or not.