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To: roguedolphin who wrote (14293)1/10/2009 4:33:58 AM
From: Threshold  Respond to of 50288
 
seems to be a "hands off" topic. always wondered why the subject got no media (well not really) coverage considering the dollars involved.

noney for nothing and chicks for free.

interesting handoff to the rabbi in 2001. when do the priests, ministers, druids, buddhist monks, mullahs and other denominations get their turn at the helm? it is after all an equal opportunity system no?

who was the CFO at the Pentagon when the cash first went missing?



To: roguedolphin who wrote (14293)1/10/2009 8:34:13 PM
From: NOW  Respond to of 50288
 
answer: money is gone offshore and you dont



To: roguedolphin who wrote (14293)1/11/2009 1:34:03 PM
From: SliderOnTheBlack39 Recommendations  Read Replies (6) | Respond to of 50288
 
"Bankstergeddon"

I am going to tell you something that you will not hear from
your government, or the mainstream press.

The Truth.

What you are witnessing is the controlled demolition of the
United States of America.

We have now crossed the rubicon into the realm of a one
trillion dollar+ annual budget deficit, with total unfunded
liabilities and deficits totaling well over $50 trillion
dollars.

$50 trillion dollars is so large, that it can never be repaid.

America is bankrupt.

The Chinese know it. The Japanese know it. The Europeans know
it. And your leaders at the highest level of government and
the military, all know it.

The entire world knows it. Everyone it seems, except the
American people who are deluded daily by the most dangerous
“WMD” know to man. The “Weapon of Mass Deception” known as your
television set which is programmed by the mainstream news.

The average American doesn't read the newspaper, or history
books. Instead they pop Prozac, play video games, and watch
reality shows.

And “they” know it.

Who is “they” you ask?

The name matters not, only their deeds and their agenda. The
name is only a mis-direction. Call them the New World Order.
Call them the Gangster-Banksters. Call them the Illuminati.
Call them what you want. It matters not.

They” control the military industrial complex from
which they stole $3.4 trillion dollars from America in the
1990’s, under Presidents Bush “41" and Clinton.

youtube.com

solari.com

The same military industrial complex that President Dwight D.
Eisenhower so presciently warned America about in his farewell
address:

video.aol.com

And “they” control the Wall Street bankers who stole
trillions more via Ponzi scheme derivatives, bogus bond
ratings, and fraudulent mortgages during the 2000’s under
President George W. Bush.

They” also control and own the Federal Reserve system
and America’s government. And it is “they” who made the
threat of Martial Law in order to extort a no questions asked,
blank check bailout of $800 billion dollars to replace money
they’d already stolen from the American people.

They” via their command and control base at the New York
Fed, refuse to answer to the other 11 regional Fed Governors,
the Congress, the Press, and the American people.

bloomberg.com

President John F. Kennedy not only warned America about “them,”
he was killed for trying to stop them by threatening to dismantle
the CIA, and the Federal Reserve system.

youtube.com

Why are we paying the privately owned “gangster bankster”
Federal Reserve hundreds of billions of dollars in interest on
debt that is now so large, that it can never be repaid?

It won't be repaid in your children’s lifetime. And not in your
grandchildren’s lifetime. America has now been turned into a
perpetual debt slave state.

Why hasn’t America woken up to the fraud, deceit, and
illegitimacy of the privately owned Federal Reserve system,
and debt based money?

J.F.K. already provided us with the solution via “Executive
Order #11110? and “U.S. Notes” as an alternative to Federal
Reserve Notes in 1963.

youtube.com
sweetliberty.org
prolognet.qc.ca

Why are we paying hundreds of billions of dollars in “tribute
taxes” to the globalist elite?

Why are we paying them interest on “our money” and why are we
handing them a “no questions asked” check for $800 billion
dollars to replace money they already stole from us? And
creating billions more in interest payments so large, that it
can never be repaid?

We let them create the largest debt bubble Ponzi scheme in the
history of the world. And we stood silent while they sucked out
hundreds of billions of dollars in obscene salaries, stock
options, and bonuses - right before they let the entire
house of cards collapse under it’s own weight.

And now we’re standing idly by, while they extort us under the
threat of “Martial Law” to hand them trillions of dollars more,
creating deficits and interest upon the debt that is so large,
it will never be repaid.

This is sheer insanity.

When is America going to wake up?

Did you see the latest news on California's debt crisis?

Californian's will not get refunds on their state income
taxes. Instead, they will get "IOU's" from the State.

abclocal.go.com

"SACRAMENTO, CA (KGO TV) -- With the state budget crisis
ongoing, the state's Controller says California may be forced
to send out IOUs instead of refunds."


California today... all of America tomorrow.

If we do not disband the Federal Reserve system within the next
two years, and take back control of this country, America as we
now know it… will cease to exist by 2012.

In what should be a wake up call to even the American’s in
deepest denial, they are no longer even trying to hide in the
shadows. Nor are they any longer trying to hide their message,
or final agenda.

The writer of the article below cited the comments from
President elect Obama’s Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel as “one of
the most chilling (political) statements that I have ever heard
uttered by an American political figure in my lifetime.”

worldnetdaily.com

Emanuel said that the economic crisis facing the country is -
“an opportunity to do things you could not do before.” And that
- “you never want a serious crisis to go to waste.”

Those were mere “talking points” from an errand boy. If you
want “chilling” here’s virtually the same talking points from
someone a little further up the ladder:

Fast forward to around the 2:35 mark of this video of a CNBC
interview with Henry Kissinger, live on the floor of the New
York Stock Exchange earlier this week:

youtube.com

Here is what Kissinger said concerning the economic crisis
facing America, and the “opportunity” it presented Obama:

“His task will be to develop an overall strategy for America
in this period, when really a “New World Order” can be created.
It’s a great opportunity, not just a crisis.”


Hmmm?

Sounds kind of familiar doesn’t it?

Can you say “talking points” and “agenda”?

They” are no longer hiding in the shadows, as Kissinger’s
interview live on the floor of the NYSE followed one of
Sir Evelyn de Rothschild just a week, or so earlier.

Do not mistake the symbolism of “them” marking their
territory as if to say…

“This is the NYSE (the symbol of American wealth) we’re here now.
We’re in charge, we own it, and we control it… it’s ours.”

And it’s true…

“Give me the control of a nations money, and I care not who
makes it laws.”

–Mayer Amschel Rothschild

America has been continually warned about the threat “they” pose
for nearly 200 years. Yet we ignored warning after warning,
and red flag after red flag… and anyone who dares speak against
them, is dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist” and a crackpot.

Was Eisenhower a conspiracy theorist and a crack pot?

Was J.F.K.?

Were all of the following American patriots, and business leaders
conspiracy theorists and crackpots too, or has America chosen
to pull the blanket of denial up over it’s eyes?

“If the American people ever allow the banks to control the
issuance of their currency… the banks and corporations that
will grow up around them, will deprive the people of all
property, until their children wake up homeless on the
continent their fathers conquered.”

– Thomas Jefferson

“The world is governed by very different personages from
what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.” (1844)

“The governments of the present day have to deal not merely
with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers,
but also with the secret societies which have everywhere their
unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all
government’s plans.” (1876)

– Benjamin Disraeli, the first Prime Minister of England

“Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of
commerce and manufacturing are afraid of somebody, are afraid
of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so
organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete,
so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath
when they speak in condemnation of it.”

– President Woodrow Wilson, 1913.

“This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic
trust on earth. When the President [Wilson} signs this bill,
the invisible government of the monetary power will be
legalized... the worst legislative crime of the ages is
perpetrated by this banking and currency bill.

From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.

The financial system has been turned over to the Federal
Reserve Board. That Board administers the finance system by
authority of a purely profiteering group. The system is
Private, conducted for the sold purpose of obtaining the
greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money."

-- Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh Sr. 1913.

"A great Industrial nation is controlled by its system of
credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a
few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the
most completely controlled and dominated governments in the
world – no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a
government by conviction and vote of majority, but a government
by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men.

“I am a most unhappy man. For I have unwittingly ruined my country.”

-- President Woodrow Wilson (after signing the Federal Reserve Act).

"Fifty men run America, and that's a high figure."
- Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, l936
issue of The New York Times.


“The truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the
Government of the United States. It controls everything here
and it controls all our foreign relations. It makes and breaks
government at will. ” (1932)

“Roosevelt has brought with him from Wall Street James P.
Warburg, son of Paul M. Warburg, Organizer and first Chairman
of the Board of the Federal Reserve System…”(1933)

“This same Warburg had the audacity and arrogance to proclaim
before the U.S. Senate: ‘We shall have World Government whether
or not we like it. The only question is whether World
Government will be achieved by Conquest or Consent.”(1950)

"Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are the United
States government's institutions. They are not government
institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey
upon the people of the United States for the benefit of
themselves and their foreign swindlers."

The Congressional Record 12595-12603. June 10th, 1932.
- Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the Committee on Banking
and Currency.


"The CFR (Council of Foreign Relations) is composed of the
most elite names in the world of government, labor, business,
finance communication, the foundations, and academies. It has
staffed almost every key position of every administration since
that of FDR.

A number of writers disturbed by the influential role that this
organization has played in determining foreign policy have
concluded that the Council of Foreign Relations and its members
are an active part of the communist conspiracy for world domination...

Many of the policies advocated by the CFR have been damaging to
the cause of freedom and particularly to the United States, but
this is not because the members are communist or communist
sympathizers. This explanation of our foreign policy reversals
is too pat, too simplistic.

I believe the Council on Foreign Relations and its ancillary
elitist groups are indifferent to communism. They have no
ideological anchors. In their pursuit of a New World Order
[World Government] they are prepared to deal without prejudice
with a communist state, a socialist state, a democratic state,
monarchy, oligarchy — it’s all the same to them.

Our government in Washington now is a horrible bureaucratic
mess. It is disorganized, wasteful, has no purpose, and its
policies — when they exist — are incomprehensible or devised
by special interest groups with little or no regard for the
welfare of the average American citizen…

The Trilateral Commission is international…(and)…is intended to
be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the
commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the
political government of the United States. The Trilateral
Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize
control and consolidate the four centers of power- political,
monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical.”

- Senator Barry Goldwater, 1979.

“Ultimately, our objective is to welcome the Soviet Union
back into the world order. Perhaps the world order of the
future will truly be a family of nations.”

- President George Bush at Texas A&M University 1989.

“They intend…to induce the Americans to adopt their own
‘restructuring’ and convergence of the Soviet and American
systems using to this end the fear of nuclear conflict….

Convergence will be accompanied by blood baths and political
re-education camps in Western Europe and the United States.

The Soviet strategists are counting on an economic depression
in the United States and intend to introduce their reformed
model of socialism with a human face as an alternative to the
American system during the depression.”

- Anatoliy Golitsyn The Perestroika Deception 1990

“The regional Federal Reserve banks are not government
agencies. …but are independent, privately owned and locally
controlled corporations.”

- Lewis vs. United States, 680 F. 2d 1239 9th Circuit Court 1982

World Government by conquest, or consent?

This is the question that now confronts America.

Warning after warning from President after President,
and leader after leader.

And pronouncement after pronouncement from “them,”
telling us what”, they” were going to do, and not even
attempting to hide their ultimate agenda….

“For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts
and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United
States. But, he didn’t. Most of his thoughts, his political
ammunition, as it were, were carefully manufactured for him in
advanced by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money group.

Brilliantly, with great gusto, like a fine piece of artillery,
he exploded that prepared “ammunition” in the middle of an
unsuspecting target, the American people, and thus paid off and
returned his internationalist political support.

The UN is but a long-range, international banking apparatus
clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small
group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit
and power.

The depression was the calculated ’shearing’ of the public by
the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden
shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market….

The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers
have now acquired full control of the money and credit
machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned
Federal Reserve Bank.”

– Curtis Dall, FDR’s son-in-law as quoted in his book,
"My Exploited Father-in-Law.”


“The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching
aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial
control in private hands able to dominate the political system
of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.

This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the
central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret
agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and
conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for
International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank
owned and controlled by the worlds’ central banks which were
themselves private corporations.

The growth of financial capitalism made possible a
centralization of world economic control and use of this power
for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of
all other economic groups.”

Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time
(Macmillan Company, 1966,)
- Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University,
mentor to U.S. President, William Jefferson Clinton.


“Marxism represents a further vital and creative stage in
the maturing of man’s universal vision. Marxism is
simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the]
inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief…

Human beings become increasingly manipulable and
malleable…Today we are again witnessing the emergence of
transnational elites….whose ties cut across national
boundaries….The nation-state is gradually yielding its
sovereignty….Further progress will require greater American
sacrifices. More intensive efforts to shape a new world
monetary structure will have to be “und erta.”

“Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era”
- by Zbigniew Brzezinski, 1970.

“The Council on Foreign Relations is “the establishment.”
Not only does it have influence and power in key
decision-making positions at the highest levels of government
to apply pressure from above, but it also announces and uses
individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify
the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a
sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state
of a one-world dictatorship.”

- Former Congressman John Rarick 1971

“The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create
a one-world government combining super capitalism and Communism
under the same tent, all under their control…. Do I mean
conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot,
international in scope, generations old in planning, and
incredibly evil in intent.”

- Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean
Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets.


“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times,
Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have
attended our meetings and respected their promise of discretion
for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to
develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the
bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world
is now more sophisticated and prepared to march toward a world
government. The super-national sovereignty of an intellectual
elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national
auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”

- David Rockefeller, speaking to his fellow global
socialists at a meeting in Baden-Baden, Germany, June 1991.


“In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete;
all states will recognize a single, global authority.

National sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all.”

- Strobe Talbot, President Clinton’s Deputy Secretary of
State, as quoted in Time Magazine, July 20th, l992.


“The precondition for eventual and genuine globalization is
progressive regionalization because by that we move towards
larger, more stable, more cooperative units.”

- Zbigniew Brzezinski, speaking at the Gorbachev Conference,
September, 1995.


”NAFTA is a major stepping stone to New World Order.”
- Henry Kissinger

“A world government can intervene militarily in the internal
affairs of any nation when it disapproves of their activities.”

- Kofi Annan, U.N. Secretary General

“Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered
Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful!

This is especially true if they were told that there were an
outside threat from beyond, [think “War on Terror”] whether
real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is
then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them
from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown.

When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be
willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being
granted to them by the World Government.”

- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from
the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family
traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.”

- Brock Adams, Director UN Health Organization

“There is a chance for the President of the United States to
use this (9-11) disaster to carry out … a new world order.”

- Gary Hart, at a televised meting organized by the CFR
in Washington, D.C. Sept 14, 2001.


There you have it. "Their" agenda out in the open and
in plain sight.

And then came 911…

And “their” Patriot Acts I and II, and the Executive
Orders of George W. Bush, and finally, the controlled
demolition and looting of the U.S. financial system.

And yet America still clings to denial?

America just rolled over and surrendered 233 years of freedom
and sovereignty. As once again, we pulled the security blanket
of denial up over our eyes.

Some of you now ask – “but, what can I do?”

Here’s what you can do…

… subscribe to non-mainstream news and spread the truth.

…start “googling” and start researching the Federal Reserve
system, and Lincoln & Kennedy’s U.S. Note solution. Learn the
facts, and learn the truth about the CFR, and the Bilderberger
group.

…. make sure your family, friends, and co-workers are
registered to vote and do vote.

. email them links to blogs, video’s, and news articles outside
of the mainstream press that will tell the truth, and explain
the globalist, bankster-gangster’s agenda.

… buy and hand out books and videos that tell the truth, and
give them out as gifts.

… start a blog…. write an op-ed and send it to your local newspaper.

… talk to your pastor/church leaders and demand that they talk
about this subject to your congregation.

… show up at your city/county council meetings. Ask questions
about the budget, and government spending.

…get to know your local law enforcement leaders - ask them
directly about their feelings concerning FEMA, and what they
think about gun control, and the loss of civil liberties. Don’t
be an in their face radical… voice your opinion and concerns
firmly, but professionally and let them know your concerns.

... talk to your friends, neighbors, and co-workers about what
is happening. Everyone is talking about the economy, about the
market crash, and about the bailouts… the door is open, and the
opportunity to educate people is here & now, don’t lose this
opportunity… use it — to educate people!

… tell your kids! - don’t let them be dumbed down. They’re the
future, and it’s their freedoms, their liberty, and their lives
that we need to take a stand for - right here, right now.

…And above all, call, write, email, and fax your Congressman,
Senator, and state & local politicians on these issues.

This already worked once.

We defeated the original “Bankster-Gangster”, blank-check
bailout bill.

– We won.
– We defeated them.
– We stopped them dead in their tracks.
– YOUR voice was heard!
– And the system worked.

It worked until Hank Paulson called an emergency meeting, and
met with key Congressional leaders in a “secret session”,
behind closed doors… where he delivered “their” message,
and “their” threat of “Martial Law.”

Only with that blatant usurping of freedom and democracy, and
only under the threat of “Martial Law” were “they” able
to continue looting America.

But, now is not the time to surrender, or roll over. Too much
is at stake. This is the 4th quarter, in the last game America
as we know it, may ever play.

And the question you’d better be asking yourself right here and
right now, is not…“what can you do?”… but, what are you going
to say one day, if you do nothing, when one day your children
and your grandchildren, look you in the eye and ask…

How could you have let this happen to us?
Didn’t you see the warning signs?
Why didn’t you do anything about it?
Why?

If you never want to have to answer your children’s “whys”…
then stand up, speak out, and start taking action – now,
because time is of essence.

S.O.T.B.



To: roguedolphin who wrote (14293)1/11/2009 10:04:40 PM
From: Eva8 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50288
 
<<Which brings me to the question I keep asking, “Where is the money and how do we get it back?“>>

and which brings me to the question, " WHY is Obama nominating and bringing these men back? Where is the change??