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To: michael97123 who wrote (448783)	1/19/2009 6:22:21 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1574226

Thanks. The solution is simple and fair, no need for complicated road maps or tricky deal scenarios. It is also the ONLY realistic path to a lasting peace. It could be done and should be done in an expedient manner, if there is a window of opportunity it is now or never. But 'can' and 'will' are two very different things. Twas just a thought. I don't believe the genuine will to have a real peace exists, if I did I would suggest devoting whatever resources are available to the process of getting the job done, the correct resources being hearts and minds. b'sides nobody ever listens to a nothing like me but other insignificant creatures like you, who nobody listens to either. Fogettaboddit, live well and prosper old friend. Have Peace, less_

To: michael97123 who wrote (448783)	1/19/2009 9:16:38 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1574226

Ted has too tiny a brain to understand the deeper issues and more nuanced points that are involved. He sees a war. He picks the underdog. That's just it.....I don't support the underdog. Hamas is no better than Israel. Whatthe problem is you don't see what the Israelis have become. Its not pretty and Israel is losing the support of more and more people. Defending Israel is putting you on a slippery slope where your closest companions are American neos. That alone would cause me to rethink my position.

To: michael97123 who wrote (448783)	1/19/2009 11:05:13 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574226

”I would like not to share your pessimism but its hard not to. The solution is so obvious, i want to scream. “ Fine you say the solution is obvious, I challenge you to convince me not to be a skeptic… feel free to offer a counter challenge, hope is a nice concept though. But how cheap is talk these days? As Yul Brynner might say with absolute authority in his voice, “So it shall be written, so shall it be done….” Then he exits stage left and his people get their butts whupped in 7 different magnificent ways, or was that a different Yul Brynner flick…. Anyway the obstacles may not be so obvious. We live in a world of veiled truth. For example: The Middle Easterners surely want peace … Muslims pray five times a day for peace, include a wish for peace in their greeting, their prophet said of all the things you may pray for during the month of fasting and continual prayer and good deeds, Peace is the best. The push for Jews to spread peace is equally as tenacious, Shalom and all that. Lift the veil dude, it is our nature to thrive on the animus we hold for one unto another. The people of the Middle East especially receive support and encouragement to stay in conflict with one another, they receive it from within and from outsiders. Lift the veil and what do we see … not peace, just animus. Peace is achieved by realizing your higher nature not by declaration. Reality (realization) begins by lifting the veil and confronting the real face of things. Hillary will go a peace making, as will other politicians and emissaries. Perhaps we will invest trillions to change the world, the Middle Eastern part of the world. Lift the veil because political capital is not available in peace, it is collected, traded, dealt in conflict. What we will get is truces, cease fire agreements, border negotiations, arms agreements, map making, economic concessions, treaties and broken treaties. Who will reconcile the people…their leaders? Lift the veil, they were elected or appointed on expectations that they would gain power and control over their counter parts or annihilate them in the process. What about the rest of the world leaders? There is a huge economic interest in who controls this region that extends to individual parts of the world whether it is Al Quaida, Iran, or Western powers and around the world. The religious authorities are corrupt. Theses particular powerful individuals are in power because they like the control and influence it gives them. They are empowered by the stories of evil design, in which they have implicated their counter parts. Lift the veil, power feeds on conflict. End the conflict and what happens to all the stories of evil design and conspiracy these guys have lain upon one another, and more importantly which they have placed in the hearts of their faithful. tsk can’t let them just disappear, t’would be a disgrace to the purveyors of evil conspiracy. We can’t let the holders of scripture endure the humility of being seen in error, not even if we must agree to our mutual destruction to keep it from happening. Of course it is probably a kagillion times more complicated. Ok call me a skeptic, oh yeah, because I am one. Yes the solution is obvious. So what am I missing, … hmmm. Let’s not do something simple and clean just because it would work, there must be some good reason why we shouldn’t go for it, ok well a bad reason then, we usually accept those on credit, or for any lame excuse, because we are all lazy cowards when it comes right down to facing the truth. God forgive me and help me do better but that's what I see when I lift the veil.