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To: Herm who wrote (5601)	10/23/1997 11:39:00 PM
From: RCVJr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14162

Herm - was wondering if I could pick your brain for a moment. I presently own 500 shares of CREAF with a nut of$16.40...I wrote the Nov20 calls prior to earnings on those 500 shares. I also bought 5 Nov22.5 calls as a side bar for $2. The time value of the Nov20 calls is almost gone (I sold the calls for $2.50). Would you recommend buying the calls back now and look at writing calls in Dec, either the 25s or 30s or should I wait and exercise the calls, letting my original shares get bought out? Any suggestions will be appreciated?

To: Herm who wrote (5601)	10/24/1997 8:55:00 AM
From: Tony D.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14162

"Did you see that big +5 move up after CREAF announced earnings?" Saw it and cried. I was a little too late and a little to short on the bid. Could have used a little Muse to raise the bid a little and stiffen the backbone. (Maybe a new use for it) I still believe VVUS is a "contrarian" stock. Tony D.

To: Herm who wrote (5601)	10/24/1997 9:33:00 AM
From: hal jordan	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 14162

Herm--Someone on the VVUS thread stated VVUS was mentioned on CNBC this morning - with positive news. That should help inflate the stock today, assuming the market does not tank. Hal