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To: Road Walker who wrote (31632)1/20/2009 3:21:57 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 71588
 
In a sense, the question is often always "what works?". There is no change in saying that, nothing new surprising of different.

But different people have different opinions about what works even when they share the same goals.

And "what works?" is a question you can only really ask after you define your goals.



To: Road Walker who wrote (31632)1/20/2009 8:11:43 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 71588
 
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I agree with a lot of the bloggers comments, but I'll make a few short responses to some of them

[Nice, but not the poetry I'd been given to expect from Obama.]

I wouldn't criticize Obama for not being overly poetic.

[How many in the audience know about Khe Sahn? Could there be a more obscure reference?

I don't find Khe Sahn obscure, even if it isn't as well known as the other battles he mentions.

[As someone else pointed out elsewhere, this is an unusual pairing. Usually, we say "Christians and Jews," which appropriate acknowledges the Judeo-Christian tradition, and Hindus and Muslims, which touches upon the fact that they are practiced more heavily to the east of us geographically.]

It might be slightly unusual but who really cares?

[bitter swill? Swill is for pigs. Weird phrasing.]

Not that weird. He was talking about something that you wouldn't want to "eat", not something palatable.

[Is it just me, or his he uncomfortable with this whole concept? It has all the warmth and feeling of a pre-printed greeting card.]

Its not the strongest part of his speech but the blogger might be a bit too critical.

[This sounded too much like a campaign speech to me, probably because every campaign speech lately has these generalized references to individual brave Americans. I find them maudlin.]

Its true that they are common, perhaps too common, but I don't have a problem with them.

As for the "gratutious slaps", well I can definitely see why he sees them, but I can also see why you almost certainly don't.

one commenter replies on that point -

"mmmm…in all fairness, Book. I didn’t think it was a great speech but I also didn’t read into it any gratuitous slaps against the Bush administration. The references to the “rancor” and “childishness” of the past years doesn’t point specific fingers and could apply to Democrats as well as Republicans. I think that he is sincerely asking for (hoping for?) a new tone and I am willing to give him a pass on those comments."

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