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To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (69983)	1/20/2009 11:55:47 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

now that's what I like to see, JQ. you good. mail good now? any fires?

To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (69983)	1/21/2009 12:04:08 AM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

btw, JQ, he is partisan. so are you. in your cute way. so be it. you are both cute about it. that works. i think. or not? you really are rather... ya know... what? conservative? republican? something. k, you just have strong ideas.

To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (69983)	1/21/2009 12:12:15 AM
From: TimF	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71178

Re: assigning deficits to presidents You have to consider who controls congress as well as who's president. You also have to consider the effects of previously implemented policies, most esp. the creation of entitlements which push spending for future presidents. That spending is to a larger (but not total) degree on the presidents and congress who pass those programs in to law (which BTW means Bush has to be blamed as well since he added a new entitlement program, or extended an existing one depending on how you look at it, but all the others where passed under Democratic presidents, and mostly Democratic congresses.

To: JF Quinnelly who wrote (69983)	1/21/2009 2:18:22 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71178

I actually have studied Keynesian economics quite a bit. At one point I was going to major in economics. Keynes was also one of the major intellectuals of the 20th century whom many compared to Einstein. It was Keynes who accurately predicted what would happen to Germany if they were stripped of everything after WWI and also predicted the great depression. I consider myself a Keynesnian. >> This won't mean anything to those who learn their political economy from Bill Maher's television show (a familiar source, koan?) but for others it may be informative.<< On another note, I consider Bill Maher, John Stewart and Steven Colbert to be three of the most important people in the world today with regard to teaching people to think in a more sophisticated manner. Especially for the young. And yes, I always learn a lot from Bill Maher.