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To: Alighieri who wrote (449286)1/21/2009 11:33:18 AM
From: jlallen1 Recommendation  Respond to of 1574261
 
Bush failed that test by any standard.

That's your opinion...which is certainly not objective by any measure.



To: Alighieri who wrote (449286)1/21/2009 11:46:13 AM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574261
 
>> Bush failed that test by any standard.

No. Not by "any" standard. Only by extremist liberal wacko standards did he fail that test.

When one looks at the presidents we (most Americans) consider to be "great", they were strong leaders who were not influenced by the politics of the moment or their concerns over any "legacy" -- knowing, of course, that history judges presidents differently from the current political winds or the hatred of partisans like yourselves.

Look at people like the first three presidents, like TR, like FDR, like Reagan, like Lincoln. These are people who didn't wring their hands about politics (as the way Clinton did, and as Obama will do). They did what was right for the country.

Great presidents are not those who pacify the passions of the out-of-power party.


Incidentally, ends do not justify means and the thousands who died and remain emotionally and physically scarred by a war we didn't have to fight


Perhaps we did, perhaps we didn't have to fight it. I don't know. But I do know that eliminating Saddam was something that needed to happen, and it is something that will provide enhanced security for America for decades to come. So, in that sense, it was an essential part of the solution.



To: Alighieri who wrote (449286)1/21/2009 12:51:07 PM
From: bentway2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574261
 
"Incidentally, ends do not justify means and the thousands who died and remain emotionally and physically scarred by a war we didn't have to fight would argue with your self serving assertions. "

Obama is meeting with the military chiefs that work for HIM now, today. Want to bet he's ordering Iraq finished ASAP? Like YESTERDAY? Probably also ordering them to start finding ways to shrink, as the cookie jar is now CLOSED.