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To: michael97123 who wrote (449787)	1/22/2009 1:32:34 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575573

>> I accept you are on the high road and clearly INODE is a snake but there are times we might have to act like a snake to save millions An absolute turd calling me a snake? I guess I can live with that.

To: michael97123 who wrote (449787)	1/22/2009 1:50:15 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575573

"Thoughts?" Sure. I’ve addressed this before but its not something I have completely settled in my own mind. There are two considerations. 1) Each of us must act according to conscience in unique situations and to some extent every circumstance presents a unique situation. 2) When it comes to policy, we screw way to much with the terms of capture in our attempt to cover all circumstance, to the point where when our undercover cops capture a criminal, in some cases, it could be argued that the criminal has committed less harm to society than the cops bringing him in. The same goes for how we address our enemies. We must use caution and vigilance in order not to become that which we set out to defeat. Be as wise as the snake, but don’t become one. If the enemy has his thumb on a trigger of any kind, material or informational, then he is not subdued he is still an active combatant IMO, physical restraint not withstanding. My terms of surrender are simple, surrender or die. You have not surrendered if you are still posing a threat of any kind, which means you must have voluntarily provided information that poses a threat to satisfy my terms of surrender. However, it doesn’t mean you have to release every kind of information I could use to help me to commit harm to your friends and family and other interests. ”there are times we might have to act like a snake to save millions.” I would not torture one human being who may or may not have information to save all of humanity, nor can I condone it. No torture fishing trips, sorry. On the other hand if I know for certain this human being is holding the information that will bring death or terror to others, he should be treated as if he were pointing a gun intending to use it, because he has not surrendered and does not have the rights of a captive (As I define the term) who has surrendered. In other words, we are still engaged in active combat. I suggest we codify the situations that meet this condition. I am certainly open to such a discussion. Codification, however, will never account for or provide an absolute shield against responsibility for your conduct in extraordinary circumstance.